[doccyber]

I never understood the hype about 1M. Funny looking car, funny name b/c couldn't call it M1 and now getting handily beat by M2. Please...

[FogCityM3]

Pretty clear that trying to draw any conclusions from this specific video is a worthless endeavor. We know on paper the M2 is faster, as it should be for a model that is 5 years newer.

[ORA]

Originally Posted by doccyber

I never understood the hype about 1M. Funny looking car, funny name b/c couldn't call it M1 and now getting handily beat by M2. Please...

it's not "hype". Of course the 'new' generation M car will beat the older generation M car in terms of acceleration. Isn't that a given? the 1M is nearly universally adored by anyone who has driven it. it's not about straight line speed. The 1M is all about how it feels to drive...the same reason people love the E30 M3 and 2002 Turbo. Are they fast? No not really.....are they characterful? YES! The 1M is not a perfect car by any means but it has tons and tons of character! In this modern age of less driver oriented tech savvy machines, that is worth its weight in gold.

[Em/1]

Originally Posted by doccyber

I never understood the hype about 1M. Funny looking car, funny name b/c couldn't call it M1 and now getting handily beat by M2. Please...

Handily beat with a very subpar performance; try looking at latest R&T comparo where they rip the 1M for being twitchy, being "outpulled" by M2 and then proceed to have the M2 beat the 1M by .02 seconds on the hot lap! Looks are subjective, but no arguing with what the general car nuts think of this one--if you you ever get a chance to drive one, you'll get lots of comments and never had a negative one. M2 great car, but the table was set by a really fun cobble job; I recommend the VO

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by igom3

What is the point of this tread? Just wondering? Apples and Oranges?

There isn't one, just pleasant banter.

[Fahrvergnügen]

Originally Posted by doccyber

I never understood the hype about 1M. Funny looking car, funny name b/c couldn't call it M1 and now getting handily beat by M2. Please...

I had similar reflections about the M235i. Not really an M car but has M is the name as a marketing ploy to make people think it's a real M, but it's not. Now it basically gets whooped by an M2 for just a few thousand dollars more.

PYRAT ftw

[Mspired]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

No way a stock M2 is going to pull away from a E9x M3 like that.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by sh55

THIS PROVES IT

A random run on a public road does not prove diddly squat.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

That is not a very well controlled test, is it ??...

According to Car and Driver:

• M3 6MT
• M2 6MT
• M3 DCT
• M2 DCT

...pretty evenly matched to me.

[F06msportmia]

Originally Posted by B-1Pilot

This is all I see:

That shit was funnnnnnny! :

[raysspl]

Hahaha dope to see them line-up

[brava09]

Originally Posted by Mspired

No way a stock M2 is going to pull away from a E9x M3 like that.

We don't even know that the camera car is E92 M3, it could be any car

[Blueherb]

Originally Posted by doccyber

I never understood the hype about 1M. Funny looking car, funny name b/c couldn't call it M1 and now getting handily beat by M2. Please...

:Triggered:

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

That is not a very well controlled test, is it ??...

According to Car and Driver:

• M3 6MT
• M2 6MT
• M3 DCT
• M2 DCT

...pretty evenly matched to me.

I don't remember anyone that could reproduce the 0-60 in 3.9 on the M3.

[sh55]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

A random run on a public road does not prove diddly squat.

Correct, hence the lols

[DL3]

Looks as if the 2 left an hour early, can't judge anything based on this.

[Jklad]

Man, people on here truly have no basic knowledge of even the most basic variables that factor into a drag race. This outcome is purely do to lack of driver, and has very little to do with the cars in question. If you swap drivers in those two cars then the m1 would have readily won. At the end of the day though, I say run what you brung, and if you brung a crappy driver, too bad for you.

But, this outcome in no way reflects what a drag race between these two cars in stock form would look like between two equal drivers.

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by Jklad

Man, people on here truly have no basic knowledge of even the most basic variables that factor into a drag race. This outcome is purely do to lack of driver, and has very little to do with the cars in question. If you swap drivers in those two cars then the m1 would have readily won. At the end of the day though, I say run what you brung, and if you brung a crappy driver, too bad for you.

But, this outcome in no way reflects what a drag race between these two cars in stock form would look like between two equal drivers.

Seriously? First it's 1M not M1, and the M2 is faster (regardless of the video).

Just look at the Nurburgring time, forget a stupid drag race:

M2: 7:58
1M: 8:12

[Nine Lives]

Originally Posted by Jklad

Man, people on here truly have no basic knowledge of even the most basic variables that factor into a drag race. This outcome is purely do to lack of driver, and has very little to do with the cars in question. If you swap drivers in those two cars then the m1 would have readily won. At the end of the day though, I say run what you brung, and if you brung a crappy driver, too bad for you.

But, this outcome in no way reflects what a drag race between these two cars in stock form would look like between two equal drivers.

Quite a statement....no its OK I realise you're joking

[Fahrvergnügen]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

Seriously? First it's 1M not M1, and the M2 is faster (regardless of the video).

Just look at the Nurburgring time, forget a stupid drag race:

M2: 7:58
1M: 8:12

Just curious, was the M2 a manual for the ring time? I don't think it was.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Fahrvergnügen

Just curious, was the M2 a manual for the ring time? I don't think it was.

It was a DCT and it was 8:01 on slightly (partly) moist surfaces (sportauto carmag)
8:15 for 1M (also sportauto carmag)

Officially 7:58(BMW) but there also was a 7:52 in it, but because, you know the M3/4 canibalism/marketing they (BMW) kept the official NS time at 7:58. Which is an 'easily' reproducable laptime for M2.

BUT 1M is way more connected and involving as a sportscar than any current normal //M car in the lineup incl M2, it's oldskool, and it's not about dragraces. BMW//M is not about dragracing in the first place.

Fun isn't around the bend, fun IS the bend, or something like that...

Cheers
Robin

[M4 GTS]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

There isn't one, just pleasant banter.

That's true!