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Just wish it linked to the in car buttons and not have to rely on a phone app... I'd also love if someone outside of the company sales pitch to install this on their car so we can get a real world unbiased review.
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One step closer to it being "connected" lol. There are some really great minds on this forum as well as the industry... If the demand and interest was high enough I'm sure someone could get it to work. Hey there's a guy on here that can switch the key fob remote to the X5 version....
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Adaptive?
My M2 Competition is on order. Can someone explain what BMW means by Adaptive Suspension? This is from the BMW NA website, and it states that the M2C has an adaptive suspension (?). I’m confused. TIA!
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Definitely not correct
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There's a big difference between an "adaptive" suspension, and a true "active" suspension.
A real Active suspension is killer good, but requires a ton of electronics and dialed in software to work. Adaptive suspensions have to still work off a fixed spring setup. Physics is physics... A well damped mechanical setup like the Ohlins DFV is outstanding at controlling a stiffer spring setup... I've run Konis DA's, AST 5200's, JRZ RS Pro's, and Ohlins DFV on several different cars. All of them saw plenty of track days and all were daily drivers as well. I also had a chance to be part of a Active Shock Pkg that never made it to market on my old E36M3. Adaptive shocks are gimmicky IMHO.. YMMV HAZMAT
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Absolutely! With all the complaining about weight and complexity on here now, I can't see why anyone would want adaptive on the M2c. Keep at least 1 M-car focused!! |
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Because standard stock suspension is already too good. The adaptive dampers might screw the ride.
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Agree adaptive dampers are just gimmicks.
A Single well judged rate is perfect. You learn the car and know how it will react all the time, without it being screwed up by 3 modes crap / crapper / really crap. |
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As much as I'd love to have a comfort-mode on my suspension while driving 10 mph downtown, if it ruined how perfect this car feels at 60 around some of the curves near my house there's no way I'd go for it. I'd much rather be annoyed by rough roads here and there than give up what the BMW engineers got so darn CORRECT.
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AFAIK active suspensions use at least 5 accelerometers to collect friction circle data and damping inputs. One at each wheel/shock and one other near the CG of that car in question. They can manipulate spring activity several times a second. The algorithms required to make a system like this work are quite complex.
I'm not sure how the P-Car sways system works...
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Also the Co I know is called Active Shock and they are well entrenched in the Military with their technology. The tech is really cool and works.
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My Time trial days are long gone so an Ohlins is in my future..probalblly next Spg for sure....What spg rates are you running on yours?
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I just marvel at the time and engineering that when into the Adaptive Suspension technology and it's real time benefits yet folks here downplay it like it's a flaw or something.
Is it a case of sour grapes? I, for one, admire the technology and would appreciate its implementation in any one of my vehicles. Common sense would tell you that if it didn't actually serve a real purpose, BMW would of not added it standard in their highest-end trim vehicles like the M5, M850i, V12 M760i and all of the CS models. Sure, BMW M cars also doesn't need an electronically-controlled torque vectoring LSD, it can get by with a standard locking mechanical diff like pre-E46 did but it's the secret and backbone behind the great handling of M vehicles VS the the standard non-LSD models. Cutting edge technology is the life blood of BMW's heritage and performance advantage. https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...ntrol/EBRqGBoO |
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