[E9TOU]

So excited for this car! The fender arches and suspension bits look to be very promising and not all surprising, but pleasant to see nonetheless. It's going to be a long 1.5 years to see a production version of this car.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by ska325xi

Im going to answer my own question about pricing

Starts at $54k with option to add CF roof, unlike the M3 standard with nav and cf roof...the M2 will come with nothing (other than the usual M bits). So basically a modded m235i.

Bmw is trying to gain entry level buyers but also have enough goodies for those diehard M fans. A lightly optioned M2 with nav and cf roof will run around $59k...add some blings like carbon brakes and we're in M3 territory

Arrival of M2 will put the M3 and M4 Coupe at three years since official introduction, and 2 and a half years since market introduction.
So the next phase of the M3 and M4 Coupe and whether a separate CRT , CSL or GTS would be on the verge of being introduced?

Leaving ample room for the M2 and the next stage of progress of the M3 and M4 to leave room for the next BMW M5.

Surprisingly they do think about this...

[S65V8]

Clincher would be weight. If 3100 ish, then we're talking...if 3500 ish, that would blow chunks.

[WilliCO]

I bet the part about the N55 ends up being wrong. It's a fantastic engine, but it will be ten years old by the time this car comes out. Plus, as I have come to understand it, it's some kind of heresy for an M car to use a BMW mainline engine.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by WJGreer

I bet the part about the N55 ends up being wrong.

I'll take this bet.

[WyattHerb]

Looking forward to seeing where BMW places this car in their performance hierarchy. Specifically in relation to the M3 and M4.

[3M TAPE]

Dear 1M owners,

Sell your cars before it's too late

[ALEJANDRO]

fuck the back seat!! it is useless...

excuse my language

[AtlantaDude]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

If we go back to early 2009 what was the BMW 1er M Coupe prototype initially was a standard 135i but with the M track and drivetrain. There was nothing to see because the priorities were with what is underneath. Its the same story here as it is the same story on any BMW prototype. It's what is underneath that counts first , final definition as in body work , details and styling comes later.

I thought everybody would know this by now...

We did not see a final prototype with the final body till May 2010.

The car is influenced by the M235i Racing in its styling because it is in the genes of the compact BMW from the 2002 Turbo to the E30 M3. Its definition also makes it stand out from the M4.

The M2 will launch in 2015. And be on the market early 2016.

Yeah... This made me LOL pretty good. Sir Scott laying the smack down.

[basiluf]

Just the meaty tires alone help improve the looks substantially.

[hellrotm]

Very early mule. Missing a lot of details.

[MaC-N54-E82]

Off to a very good start. I like everything I see so far. Excited to see how this progresses to the production car.

[Sean@PSI]

I'll take 2!!

[J-boogey]

What transmission is this getting? DCT & 6MT?

[WilliCO]

Originally Posted by BimmerEngineer

N55 is only 3.5 years old now. Where did 10 yrs. come from for mid 2015?! The N54 twin turbo will be 10 yes, but not the single turbo N55

OK, let's say 8 years. First N55 application was the 2010 model 535iGT, build dates in 2009. Figure it was around a year or two before it ended up in a car on offer. The M2 hits the market in 2016.

But never mind - the point is that, by that time, BMW will be moving away from the N55 in nearly every other application. I have no inside information, but it seems odd to me that they would use it for an M car at that point in its lifecycle.

Having said that, I have an N55 in my F10 and I think it is wonderful.

[bdaddylo]

Originally Posted by WJGreer

OK, let's say 8 years. First N55 application was the 2010 model 535iGT, build dates in 2009. Figure it was around a year or two before it ended up in a car on offer. The M2 hits the market in 2016.

But never mind - the point is that, by that time, BMW will be moving away from the N55 in nearly every other application. I have no inside information, but it seems odd to me that they would use it for an M car at that point in its lifecycle.

Having said that, I have an N55 in my F10 and I think it is wonderful.

BMW did the same thing with the N54 in the 1M, 335is, and Z4 whatever they called it, so why doesn't it make sense????

[Powaup]

Originally Posted by W///

Unless it comes out with the LCI 2er, you're going to see HUD on the M2. HUD requires a completely different dash not to mention different magnesium dash carrier too.

I'm guessing you mean "you're not going to see HUD on the M2"

[IS3andME]

Originally Posted by SlowSaloonM3

some can't even read the original post and you have to read through every single post!

If this were an open book test on the test mule for the upcoming M2, many people would fail.

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by SROC5

Clincher would be weight. If 3100 ish, then we're talking...if 3500 ish, that would blow chunks.

I'd imagine 3300 ish. Given that the weight savings in the M3/4 wasn't what we'd hoped, I think 3300-3400 is realistic. I'd be surprised if it weighs the same as the M235i though.

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by WJGreer

OK, let's say 8 years. First N55 application was the 2010 model 535iGT, build dates in 2009. Figure it was around a year or two before it ended up in a car on offer. The M2 hits the market in 2016.

But never mind - the point is that, by that time, BMW will be moving away from the N55 in nearly every other application. I have no inside information, but it seems odd to me that they would use it for an M car at that point in its lifecycle.

Having said that, I have an N55 in my F10 and I think it is wonderful.

Nevermind the fact that you're grossly inflating the timeline in order to support your point?

Yes, BMW is moving away from the N55 in their mainline production, but remember when the 1M used the N54, even though the N55 was already developed?

The B58 hasn't hit the streets yet, so same game plan here. Use what you know.

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by BimmerEngineer

The engine will be a further enhanced N54 with slightly larger turbos, forged internals, better breathing and upgraded fuel system. 375-385hp.

You really nailed it...

Wait. Right from the very first post:

Originally Posted by Jason

The M2 will begin production in late Fall 2015, for deliveries in late 2015 - early 2016. It will feature the N55 turbo inline 6 engine (N55B30T0), producing around 370-380 PS (365-375 HP).

[WilliCO]

Originally Posted by bdaddylo

BMW did the same thing with the N54 in the 1M, 335is, and Z4 whatever they called it, so why doesn't it make sense????

None of those cars came out of the M Performance division.