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I'm going to need one of these...
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My M235 is not a great car - but it is a very good car. It is plenty quick in straight lines, but even in the context of a spirited drive, you can feel the weight and body roll around you. Will better suspension and underpinnings change that? Of course - but without some Slim Fast, the improvement might be neglible. In order for me to justify the 10K increase in price that I am anticipating, the M2 is going to have to be one special mofo. So far, the info we know about it suggests that it will be very very good - but perhaps not special. I, for one, don't care for the N55. I have had two of them now, and they have left me underwhelmed. The N54 was awesome. If they told me the M2 was coming with a tricked up even more version of that - my attitude would change. But that's not going to be the case. Most likely, we are going to get the N55, not the S55, with a couple of different ///M badges on it (yes, I am being facetious, but it won't be the total treatment, which is what we want)...to me, this car is becoming harder to shoehorn into the spot that's been set aside for it UNLESS it's significantly better handling than the M235 OR significantly faster. My guess is that the final product will be a little bit of both - which means you pick this car over the M3/4 for looks, size, or economy. Not because it's the best driver's car BMW makes - which is what it should be. Hoping I am wrong.
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08-26-2014, 01:47 PM | #50 |
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Just a hunch. 1 year before SOP is not a lot of time to develop something as big as an entire new CF roof. I sure hope I'm wrong though, that'd actually be a really nice surprise
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08-26-2014, 01:50 PM | #51 |
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BMW can make a very special thing with this car. CF roof and beautiful wheels to start, and then attention to detail, to make it look like a car that cost what it costs.
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The gestation period for a car is not just half a year.
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08-26-2014, 01:59 PM | #55 |
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Having said that, the F80 looked like this at initial testing, final result looks very different! So it's really too early to say what it's going to look like in detail.
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08-26-2014, 02:00 PM | #56 |
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I'm anxious to see how BMW differentiates this car from the M235 while mitigating any cannibalization of F8x sales.
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The body advances, but we see more of it camouflaged.
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For the most part, I believe only real car enthusiasts will be cross-shopping the new M3/M4 with the M2, and the numbers of those people are far, far outweighed by the numbers of big wallet "BMW buyers" who view the M3/M4 as just a better, more expensive 3/4 series. |
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Who knows.. there maybe a e9x M3 style non-contoured cf roof beneath that red paint.
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You N55 naysayers make for some great entertainment. This is going to be one hell of a car regardless of your biased conjecture.
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I'm cross shopping the M4 with the M2...and anxiously awaiting the final engine specs.
I was under the impression they are different engine codes for 2015+...so the N55 or derivative in this engine bay may be pretty different/interesting.
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The problem with the rocker panels is that on the M235i Racing they look if they are stuck on but the route the M2 will take is that of the Vision Gran Turismo for a more seamless application. The overall look is influenced by the M235i Racing but applied like the Vision Gran Turismo. The more M like appearance of the Vision Gran Turismo is carried over to the M2.
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