[Wixer02]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

Suspension: TC Kline Single-Adjustable Front, Double-Adjustable rear coilover suspension w/ 300/600 VVS springs & TC Kline camber plates set for Street. The springs on this setup are *not* conical like the MPS or Litchfield so the springs/struts should be very similar dimensionally to stock.

Suspension drop: Planned to be no more than 1/2 - 3/4".

I do not want to use spacers (required w/ Apex wheels and MPS suspension due to the conical spring), nor excessive negative camber where the wheel is obviously tilted, and am attempting to get better low-speed street compliance, a minor aesthetic drop, and better traction to prevent DSC intervention. With no rubbing.

I’ve heard good things about TCK and curious about this setup (TCK 300/600, Apex 19 inch staggered, 265/30, 295/30 - but with sport cups pr proxes). Curious if you pulled the trigger and have anything to report back!

Thanks!

[flybigjet]

Originally Posted by Wixer02

I’ve heard good things about TCK and curious about this setup (TCK 300/600, Apex 19 inch staggered, 265/30, 295/30 - but with sport cups pr proxes). Curious if you pulled the trigger and have anything to report back!

Thanks!

Full disclosure:

I've got the TCK coilovers on with 300/600 springs on at the moment, with stock wheels and tires.

The good: It's a FAR better suspension than stock-- and it *really* shines on the track. My instructor has a M2C, and he was *very* impressed with the suspension setup. Additionally, my buddy is a SCCA racer (Miata-Spec) and was out this past weekend-- he drove the car and really, *really* loved the suspension-- his exact words were "Don't change a thing."

The bad: We've had some issues with ride height. With minimal lowering, I'm still having slight rubbing issues at the top of the rear wheels against the shrouds, and have also hit the bump stops a few times on expansion joints on the front.

My shop (which is AWESOME) has a personal relationship with TCK and will be reaching out to him. The best bet at the moment is probably 400/700 on the springs. Not sure on that yet, but it's a possibility. Returning closer to stock ride height is another option.

Apex EC-7's (M2C-specific offsets and 1/2" wider than stock) are still on order and I should see them in about three weeks.

The recommend tires for the EC-7 wheelset are MP4S's in 265 & 295/30. However, Michelin recently (1 Apr) released a 285/30 which (on paper) might be a better match to the 265 front.

However, a -30 series sidewall scares the hell out of me in CO (our roads? Driving off a cliff would be easier on the car)-- so I'm seriously considering going with MP4S's in a 255 & 275/35 setup-- they're about 7mm taller, but will fill up the wheel well, not lower the car too much, and provide a bit more contact patch-- they might be a reasonable compromise between traction and livability, especially if I'm running the MP4S's.

Bonus points-- in that size, I can put Cup 2's on my stock wheels and use them for track days without having to mess with suspension height, resetting camber, etc. as both wheelsets and tire combinations would be near -identical.

I'm still considering. puzzling and pondering-- I spent a few hours today doing the math on them as well as some other research. The car's in the shop for some warranty work (AC control panel) and an oil change at the moment-- when I pick it up, I'll double and triple-check to see that I can get 7mm of clearance at full lock on the front wheels. But at the moment? I'm sort of thinking the 255/275 combo is the way to go-- especially if I go with firmer springs. Running stock ride height (or a little lower) with the slightly larger sidewall seems to be great look from what I've seen. Performance-wise? While not as "optimal" as the 265/295 combination, it might be far more livable here in CO, and might keep the Minister of War and Finance from bruising her kidney's on Date Night.

Updates as events warrant.

R.

[Wixer02]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

The bad: We've had some issues with ride height. With minimal lowering, I'm still having slight rubbing issues at the top of the rear wheels against the shrouds, and have also hit the bump stops a few times on expansion joints on the front.

My shop (which is AWESOME) has a personal relationship with TCK and will be reaching out to him. The best bet at the moment is probably 400/700 on the springs. Not sure on that yet, but it's a possibility. Returning closer to stock ride height is another option.


R.

Wow, thank you for the update - really helpful.

What had been in my head was similar to what you were planning. Keeping the stock wheels and tires for daily use. I had been plotting using the apex’s for track days. The thought would be to run a track alignment, but also be able to dial the dampers between track days for road use. I’m less concerned about the sidewall in this case (not for DD use) so assume the 265/30s and 295/30s would be okay...

I know you cannot say for sure, but it sounds like stock ride height could work to prevent the rubbing? Wondering if that would be an option that would allow the 300/600s to still work...

Thanks again! And yes, do keep the Minister happy...

[j0oftheworld]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

Full disclosure:

I've got the TCK coilovers on with 300/600 springs on at the moment, with stock wheels and tires.

The good: It's a FAR better suspension than stock-- and it *really* shines on the track. My instructor has a M2C, and he was *very* impressed with the suspension setup. Additionally, my buddy is a SCCA racer (Miata-Spec) and was out this past weekend-- he drove the car and really, *really* loved the suspension-- his exact words were "Don't change a thing."

The bad: We've had some issues with ride height. With minimal lowering, I'm still having slight rubbing issues at the top of the rear wheels against the shrouds, and have also hit the bump stops a few times on expansion joints on the front.

My shop (which is AWESOME) has a personal relationship with TCK and will be reaching out to him. The best bet at the moment is probably 400/700 on the springs. Not sure on that yet, but it's a possibility. Returning closer to stock ride height is another option.

Apex EC-7's (M2C-specific offsets and 1/2" wider than stock) are still on order and I should see them in about three weeks.

The recommend tires for the EC-7 wheelset are MP4S's in 265 & 295/30. However, Michelin recently (1 Apr) released a 285/30 which (on paper) might be a better match to the 265 front.

However, a -30 series sidewall scares the hell out of me in CO (our roads? Driving off a cliff would be easier on the car)-- so I'm seriously considering going with MP4S's in a 255 & 275/35 setup-- they're about 7mm taller, but will fill up the wheel well, not lower the car too much, and provide a bit more contact patch-- they might be a reasonable compromise between traction and livability, especially if I'm running the MP4S's.

Bonus points-- in that size, I can put Cup 2's on my stock wheels and use them for track days without having to mess with suspension height, resetting camber, etc. as both wheelsets and tire combinations would be near -identical.

I'm still considering. puzzling and pondering-- I spent a few hours today doing the math on them as well as some other research. The car's in the shop for some warranty work (AC control panel) and an oil change at the moment-- when I pick it up, I'll double and triple-check to see that I can get 7mm of clearance at full lock on the front wheels. But at the moment? I'm sort of thinking the 255/275 combo is the way to go-- especially if I go with firmer springs. Running stock ride height (or a little lower) with the slightly larger sidewall seems to be great look from what I've seen. Performance-wise? While not as "optimal" as the 265/295 combination, it might be far more livable here in CO, and might keep the Minister of War and Finance from bruising her kidney's on Date Night.

Updates as events warrant.

R.

I'm also in your boat with being lowered and not wanting to increase tire diameter if at all.
Toyo R888R in stock sizes are still about 1/2" wider and share stock diameter.
Problem is they're on national back order. I'll be using Apex ec7 as well.

[Novel]

Anyone has pics of EC-7 18x9.5 ET28 255/35/18 square setup?
Listed as a popular fitment on the fitment page, can't seem to find pics though.

[Wixer02]

Just adding to the gallery. Stock suspension with Apex Recommended fitment for staggered 19 inch set up on M2C.

Apex EC-7s in anthracite with Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s.
Front: 19x9.5" ET28 with 265/30-19 tires
Rear: 19x10.5" ET45 with 295/30-19 tires

Love the grip and the look!

[MooMooM2]

Those look great!

[Fly320s]

Newbie question. I know nothing about suspension and camber and fitment, so use small words and big pictures.

I'd like to get a set of Apex wheels for track day use. I have a bone stock 2020 M2C, which has the 2NH brakes of course. I will be upgrading the brake pads, but not the calipers or rotors, so the overall size shouldn't change.

Apex recommends this fitment:

Front & Rear: 19x9.5" ET28 with 265/30-19 tires
Available in our EC-7 and SM-10 designs.
Popular fitment.
Front negative camber required.
275/30-19 tires can also fit, but requires additional front negative camber.

Will I need camber plates or is there enough factory-available camber to work?

Will I be able to switch back to my factory wheels without having to change camber settings?

Thanks.

[Carrera2RS]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

Newbie question. I know nothing about suspension and camber and fitment, so use small words and big pictures.

I'd like to get a set of Apex wheels for track day use. I have a bone stock 2020 M2C, which has the 2NH brakes of course. I will be upgrading the brake pads, but not the calipers or rotors, so the overall size shouldn't change.

Apex recommends this fitment:

Front & Rear: 19x9.5" ET28 with 265/30-19 tires
Available in our EC-7 and SM-10 designs.
Popular fitment.
Front negative camber required.
275/30-19 tires can also fit, but requires additional front negative camber.

Will I need camber plates or is there enough factory-available camber to work?

Will I be able to switch back to my factory wheels without having to change camber settings?

Thanks.

You will need camber plates or negative camber hubs, why are you not running 10.5 x 19 rear ?

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

Newbie question. I know nothing about suspension and camber and fitment, so use small words and big pictures.

I'd like to get a set of Apex wheels for track day use. I have a bone stock 2020 M2C, which has the 2NH brakes of course. I will be upgrading the brake pads, but not the calipers or rotors, so the overall size shouldn't change.

Apex recommends this fitment:

Front & Rear: 19x9.5" ET28 with 265/30-19 tires
Available in our EC-7 and SM-10 designs.
Popular fitment.
Front negative camber required.
275/30-19 tires can also fit, but requires additional front negative camber.

Will I need camber plates or is there enough factory-available camber to work?

Will I be able to switch back to my factory wheels without having to change camber settings?

Thanks.

Depending on the exact tire used, a 265/30-19 on a 19x9.5" ET28 can work with stock alignment (camber) settings. One APEX employee is running the 18" version of this fitment with 265/35-18 Michelin PS4S tires on an otherwise stock M2 (non-comp) without any rubbing.

A 275/30-19 would likely rub up front without added camber and an aggressive track focused tire in the 265/30-19 size that runs a bit wider than a street tire could cause a slight issue as well.

As you will quickly learn on track, added negative camber really helps with turn in, front end grip, and preventing accelerated wear on the outer shoulder of the tire as you're speed picks up. If you do plan on tracking often, camber plate would likely be a worthwhile investment, although some options will increase interior noise and harshness levels when driving on the street.

If you were to increase your negative camber front or rear to accommodate a 275 or wide 265 track tire, your OEM wheels will still fit just fine without changing your alignment specs.

If you have any other questions or would like an in depth fitment recommendation, feel free to send us an email at expert@apexraceparts.com!

-Ian

[Carrera2RS]

A recent shot, on 265/245s looking forward t fitting 255/35 and 275/35s

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by Expert@ApexRaceParts

Depending on the exact tire used, a 265/30-19 on a 19x9.5" ET28 can work with stock alignment (camber) settings. One APEX employee is running the 18" version of this fitment with 265/35-18 Michelin PS4S tires on an otherwise stock M2 (non-comp) without any rubbing.

A 275/30-19 would likely rub up front without added camber and an aggressive track focused tire in the 265/30-19 size that runs a bit wider than a street tire could cause a slight issue as well.

As you will quickly learn on track, added negative camber really helps with turn in, front end grip, and preventing accelerated wear on the outer shoulder of the tire as you're speed picks up. If you do plan on tracking often, camber plate would likely be a worthwhile investment, although some options will increase interior noise and harshness levels when driving on the street.

If you were to increase your negative camber front or rear to accommodate a 275 or wide 265 track tire, your OEM wheels will still fit just fine without changing your alignment specs.

If you have any other questions or would like an in depth fitment recommendation, feel free to send us an email at expert@apexraceparts.com!

-Ian

Thanks, Ian.

I'm getting more info from Geirsen.

[NaOH228i]

Figure I should post my setup.

Square:
18x9.5" ET28 FL-5 Satin Black
265/35-18 PS4S

Stock suspension, no issues.

[E30M3Driver]

Apex Sm10
19x9.5 et28. 255/35R19 Yokohama A052
19x10.5 et45. 275/35R19 Yokohama A052

[chasebish]

Any pictures of Satin Black on Sunset Orange Metallic?

[Carrera2RS]

Originally Posted by E30M3Driver

Apex Sm10
19x9.5 et28. 255/35R19 Yokohama A052
19x10.5 et45. 275/35R19 Yokohama A052

How do you find the Yokohama’s ?

[E30M3Driver]

Originally Posted by Carrera2RS

How do you find the Yokohama’s ?

How do you find the Yokohama's ?

Tirerack. I caught them when they had the fronts in stock and rears were on order and coming in. Not sure of current availability.

[MooMooM2]

Installed my EC7 today. Apex is A+ from ordering to receiving and installing the wheels. Super happy

[MooMooM2]

And another (proper) one

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by ApexRaceParts

Show Us What You Got!

With an increasing number of F22 2-Series enthusiasts mounting APEX wheels on their vehicles for both street and track use, we see many photographs of APEX wheels shared throughout the forum. This thread will compile photos of different APEX wheel fitments, as well as provide the community with detailed information surrounding wheel and tire fitment, alignment settings, brake and suspension clearances and more! Please feel free to ask questions along the way, we have fitment experts ready to provide technical support for both spirited street driving to weekend track warriors.

Feel free to just share pictures, but we know other enthusiasts would greatly appreciate if you included the following:

• Wheel Model, Color, Size & Offset
• Front and Rear Tire sizes, Tire Make & Model
• Suspension Modifications, Camber Plates
• Any required alignment settings such as added negative camber
• Any other required modification (Spacers, fender rolling, etc.)

Let's Kick Things Off!

18" EC-7
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Wheels:
Flow Formed EC-7 wheels in Race Silver
18x9.5" ET35 Square

Tires:
Nexen SUR4G
265/35-18 Square

Additional Modifications:
N/A


19" EC-7
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Wheels:
Flow Formed EC-7 wheels in Race Silver
Front: 19x9.5" ET28 Rear: 19x10.5" ET45

Tires:
Toyo R888
Front: 265/30-19 Rear: 295/30-19

Additional Modifications:
N/A

18" SM-10
click here to learn more



Wheels:
Flow Formed SM-10 in Satin Black
18x9.5" ET35 Square

Tires:
Bridgestone RE-71R
275/35-18 Square

Additional Modifications:
M Performance coilovers
12mm front spacer and 5mm rear spacer
Ground Control camber plates


18" FL-5
click here to learn more



Wheels:
Flow Formed FL-5 wheels in Satin Black
18x9.5" ET35 Square

Tires:
Nitto NT01
275/35-18 Square

Additional Modifications:
5mm front spacers


18" ARC-8R
click here to learn more



Wheels:
Forged ARC-8R wheels in Polished
18x10.5" ET40 Square

Tires:
Toyo Proxes RR
295/35-18 Square

Additional Modifications:
25mm front spacers


18" EC-7R
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Wheels:
Forged EC-7R Wheels in Satin Black
Front: 18x9.5" ET22 Rear: 18x10.5" ET40

Tires:
Nankang AR-1
Front: 265/35-18 Rear: 295/30-18

Additional Modifications:
Ohlins R&T coilovers with custome shim stack
H&R race springs
Millway camber plates
Fall-Line Motorsports toe link and rear camber shims

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[RYTM2]

Originally Posted by r3awak3n

Installed my EC7 today. Apex is A+ from ordering to receiving and installing the wheels. Super happy

Looks great! Are the tires 265/30, 285/30 with a stock suspension?

[MooMooM2]

Originally Posted by RYTM2

Looks great! Are the tires 265/30, 285/30 with a stock suspension?

Tires are 265 and 295 and it is stock suspension.