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      09-07-2019, 06:07 PM   #89
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So maybe a stupid question but is ED going to be an option?
My dealership won't do ED with the special editions.
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So maybe a stupid question but is ED going to be an option?
My dealership won't do ED with the special additions.
I can see them asking for us msrp for pricing. Even with ED
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So maybe a stupid question but is ED going to be an option?
My dealership won't do ED with the special editions.
I always find it surprising when dealerships do not do ED. It's basically no lost for them since they will receive another allocation. In addition, they give a prospective buyer a great experience and help build brand loyalty.

Silly dealerships, looking at small short term gains...
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So maybe a stupid question but is ED going to be an option?
My dealership won't do ED with the special editions.
I always find it surprising when dealerships do not do ED. It's basically no lost for them since they will receive another allocation. In addition, they give a prospective buyer a great experience and help build brand loyalty.

Silly dealerships, looking at small short term gains...
Not true, they lose Added Value on Euro Delivery vehicles, so it does cost them significantly. In most cases that is their gross profit on the vehicle.
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I see what you did there...
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Did anyone catch this on the bmwusa.com website? Is this what's going to be shown at the invite?
Man that would be a big buzz kill - they NEED to do something related to the CS because the laboriously slow strip tease went past annoying a looooong time ago.

The M4, on the other hand, is OLD news...
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Did anyone catch this on the bmwusa.com website? Is this what's going to be shown at the invite?
Man that would be a big buzz kill - they NEED to do something related to the CS because the laboriously slow strip tease went past annoying a looooong time ago.

The M4, on the other hand, is OLD news...
Lol ya sort of bored of it
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///M2 CS is gone be hard to get. Allocation gone be a B.... to get.
Sad that people can't wait to be revealed....most of us won't be able to get one
You are right on that one. I called 8 dealers and everyone has people on the list already waiting
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      09-08-2019, 07:49 PM   #97
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You are right on that one. I called 8 dealers and everyone has people on the list already waiting
The price of admission is still unknown. You may want to get on a list ianyway in case folks choose to abandon ship.
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///M2 CS is gone be hard to get. Allocation gone be a B.... to get.
Sad that people can't wait to be revealed....most of us won't be able to get one
Like the M4GTS? Also limited edition and nobody wanted one. Lol. There might still be unsold ones sitting around.

People are, on the whole smart when it comes to demand. If the M2CS was $65k there will be a line out the door. If the M2CS is more than $80-85k you will see this sitting on lots unsold for a looooong time—-until they get discounted for $70k.
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///M2 CS is gone be hard to get. Allocation gone be a B.... to get.
Sad that people can't wait to be revealed....most of us won't be able to get one
Like the M4GTS? Also limited edition and nobody wanted one. Lol. There might still be unsold ones sitting around.

People are, on the whole smart when it comes to demand. If the M2CS was $65k there will be a line out the door. If the M2CS is more than $80-85k you will see this sitting on lots unsold for a looooong time—-until they get discounted for $70k.
I wish that will be the case so I can have one
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"Special" and "limited" BMW M models are always hit or miss. However, given that this comes in 6MT, I personally think it will sell out before it launches.
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"Special" and "limited" BMW M models are always hit or miss. However, given that this comes in 6MT, I personally think it will sell out before it launches.
Agree if the numbers are as limited as anticipated think they will shift no problem. Got my name in the hat 🤞🏻
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Unless you want the luxury features only available on the M4 I imagine a lot have been steered to the M2C and will be to the M2CS.

The GTS was a great idea but you had to be in freakin love with the brand to spend that amount on a 4 series core car. They lost it with the M4CS by making it way too spartan for nothing.. I feel the execs taking the decisions really don't have good info on these ''special models'' target market. They should just look at porsche GTS line-up, a total win.

I hope the M2CS will be a M2C with better performance, a better club car, lightweight parts are good but please don't remove any features unless there is a huge gain. We all love our BMW's because at the core they are just great performance version of practical road cars.
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[BMW] should just look at porsche GTS line-up, a total win.
But following Porsche's formula, a 2 Series GTS would look like an M2 with an M235i power plant. Porsche doesn't put the top engine in their GTS models.
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+40-50% to base is how BMW is trying to position the CS models. And 90-100% with the CSL/GTS.

The attempt with the M4 GTS/CS failed, a reason why they should adjust with the M2. However also making sense is that BMW want to take advantage of the M2, a surprisingly successful product, to "restore" the +50% position of the CS. The huge anticipation reflected from the enthusiast community seems to "encourage" BMW to take that route.

For 85-90k, many would stretch out to a lightly loaded 992 base though.
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+40-50% to base is how BMW positions the CS models. And 90-100% with the CSL/GTS.

The GTS/CS failed with the M4, a reason why they should adjust with the M2. However also making sense is that BMW takes advantage of the M2 to "restore" the +50% position of the CS. The huge anticipation reflected on forum seems to "encourage" BMW to take that route.

For 85-90k, many would stretch out to a low specced 992 base though.
Agreed!

I think most of us here will be interested in taking one home if the price reflects value and for me that would be in the $70-75k range.

North of that in the $80-90k range and your going to lose to CPO P cars and maybe some base P cars.
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      09-09-2019, 07:26 PM   #106
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Agreed!

I think most of us here will be interested in taking one home if the price reflects value and for me that would be in the $70-75k range.

North of that in the $80-90k range and your going to lose to CPO P cars and maybe some base P cars.
Yep. I'd be looking at the C8, which comes in under 80k for my spec.
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+40-50% to base is how BMW is trying to position the CS models. And 90-100% with the CSL/GTS.
The attempt with the M4 GTS/CS failed, a reason why they should adjust with the M2. However also making sense is that BMW want to take advantage of the M2, a surprisingly successful product, to "restore" the +50% position of the CS. The huge anticipation reflected from the enthusiast community seems to "encourage" BMW to take that route.
For 85-90k, many would stretch out to a lightly loaded 992 base though.
It appears that the M2 CS list price is gonna be around €95K (see here).
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Anyone at the Frankfurt motor show? Any news of the CS at the show?
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Anyone at the Frankfurt motor show? Any news of the CS at the show?
No.

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If there is even a hint of the CSL making it to production, I probably won't make the move from M2C to M2CS. And, as I type those words, I can't help but wonder how the two would be different. Would the CSL get a roll-cage and more CF? S58 engine?

By the way, I'm in the black and gold camp too (with CCB). Misano and Gold wheels is a little too WRX for my tastes.
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