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      04-17-2019, 12:43 PM   #1
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Great steering for all OG/LCI M2!!! :-)

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My car went onto the dealer for it's end of warranty check and had it's software updated - when it went in, it was actually coded for "F087CS" steering, which I have been a big fan of. When driving afterwards the steering felt slightly improved in terms of feel but largely the same - I was a little surprised at this, as I thought a software update would clear all settings.

I then had the laptop plugged into the car today and noticed that the car was actually on "F087" coding for steering! BMW seem to have been unexpectedly generous and updated all the M2's with great steering.

I then went on to do a couple of back to back test drives with the F087 and F087CS coding options. They are very close, but I actually prefer the F087 option - in Sport+ the steering is slightly lighter and as a result has more feel.

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If steering feel is your thing though, try the F087 option and turn off the DSC - wow, that is great steering - weighty, but dripping with feel.
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Above is against ISTEP F020-19-03-530 (v4.16.40)
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Can I see the what steering is set to using bimmercode or BM3? How do you tell?
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      04-17-2019, 02:38 PM   #4
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Can I see the what steering is set to using bimmercode or BM3? How do you tell?
If you have an og or lci, it will be set to F087.

I used esys.
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      04-17-2019, 02:59 PM   #5
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Can I see the what steering is set to using bimmercode or BM3? How do you tell?
Anyway, the point is that you don't need to worry about it - just get your cars software updated and it'll be great either way.
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How did you get the dealer to update software? Were there any issues to complain about?
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How did you get the dealer to update software? Were there any issues to complain about?
End of warranty check, which included a software update at the dealer I went to.
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How did you get the dealer to update software? Were there any issues to complain about?
End of warranty check, which included a software update at the dealer I went to.
I'm not sure that's standard in the US?
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      04-17-2019, 07:20 PM   #9
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I'm not sure that's standard in the US?
My dealers wants $140
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I'm not sure that's standard in the US?
My dealers wants $140
My dealer wants 250 for an oil change because it's an M (n55).

I told them that ridiculous. Won't budge though.
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I'm not sure that's standard in the US?
My dealers wants $140
Trust me - is worth it.

If you have an og m2, then it will seem as though you have bought a new (better) car - the differences are massive in the cars dynamics.

If you have an lci, it is the steering that is much improved (for me still worth it).

An hours labour to gain the improvements is nothing compared to the cost of the car.

Read all about this latest update in my last post on this thread:
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1427747

Be aware of the asd difference.
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My dealer wants 250 for an oil change because it's an M (n55).

I told them that ridiculous. Won't budge though.

Those carbon fiber oil filters can be pricey. Totally worth it though if you want a lighter car.
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I have an LCI how long did the update take? I want to wait on it.
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      04-18-2019, 12:09 PM   #16
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My dealer wants 250 for an oil change because it's an M (n55).

I told them that ridiculous. Won't budge though.
Just had mine in to my dealer yesterday for 2nd oil change and inspection (8,000kms on ODO).

Cost to me... $0.00.

Not sure where you are taking your car.
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Just had mine in to my dealer yesterday for 2nd oil change and inspection (8,000kms on ODO).

Cost to me... $0.00.

Not sure where you are taking your car.
Peter Pan BMW service department. It would cost $0 if it was time for the yearly/10k mile oil change, but I like to do one at 5-6k miles anyway that I pay out of pocket for.

They were charging $150 before which is still a lot but my SA explained there was some sort of deal going on before for that pricing and they no longer have that deal. I explained there is no reason an oil change for the N55 M2 should cost BMW $100 more than an N55 135is. My SA did not respond.

Just bought some oil that was delivered to me yesterday so it will get done one way or another.
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New M2 (and BMW!) owner here. Car has warranty for a few months and two services.

Please explain istep what it is, what I should be asking the dealership.

Are all updates positive? I heard someone say one of them have a quieter exhaust note.
Are updates reversible?

Can you get these updates from an independent specialist garage, I hear about people getting GTS updates to DCT or steering.

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New M2 (and BMW!) owner here. Car has warranty for a few months and two services.
Congrats! Good choice!

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Please explain istep what it is, what I should be asking the dealership.
ISTEP is the software packages released by BMW to update the modules on the car.

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Are all updates positive? I heard someone say one of them have a quieter exhaust note.
Assuming your car has not been updated (high likely), then all changes are positive. :-)
Your exhaust will actually be louder as the ECU opens the flaps more than the OG software. Traction is better, steering is better etc.
The ASD (active sound = sound augmentation = fake sound inside the car) is probably going to be slightly quieter, but it is still there and is actually a much better balance between being complimentary vs. intrusive.

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Are updates reversible?
Don't know. Unlikely unless you go through a lot of hassle doing it yourself (due to inter-module dependencies). No way that a dealer would do it.

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Can you get these updates from an independent specialist garage, I hear about people getting GTS updates to DCT or steering.
May be - you'd have to ask. Recommendation is probably to get BMW to do the software update, and then specialist to tweak it.

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Great response thank you.

I even read about the LCI M2 maybe being perkier than the OG OG M2!?

I'll certainly flag it up she's due the next service if that's ok or does it count as a 'warranty' item in which case I've got till November.

Do dealers tend to know the individual updates so I can anticipate the changes? It's amazing so much is tweaked through the software after the car is launched, not just sat nav stuff which I understand but actual control parameters for the car!
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Great response thank you.

I even read about the LCI M2 maybe being perkier than the OG OG M2!?

I'll certainly flag it up she's due the next service if that's ok or does it count as a 'warranty' item in which case I've got till November.

Do dealers tend to know the individual updates so I can anticipate the changes? It's amazing so much is tweaked through the software after the car is launched, not just sat nav stuff which I understand but actual control parameters for the car!
Had my 18 LCI done yesterday. I'll concur everything is better. No need to code out ASD now it's very muted now which is great. Steering is much improved in sport mode.
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Had my 18 LCI done yesterday. I'll concur everything is better. No need to code out ASD now it's very muted now which is great. Steering is much improved in sport mode.
Which version did you had before? Im on istep version P18 (as shown in idrive) for my LCI
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