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      06-17-2020, 11:14 PM   #595
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Yes, he is, PS4S. Looks great.
Totally! I've ordered PS4S in 265/295 30-19 as well. I was really concerned about the wheel gap with the 265/30 -19 upfront on stock suspension but these pictures have given me hope.
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Totally! I've ordered PS4S in 265/295 30-19 as well. I was really concerned about the wheel gap with the 265/30 -19 upfront on stock suspension but these pictures have given me hope.
Hard to tell from pictures. The tire itself is .5 shorter, which is .25 on the fender gap, so 6.4mm. Not a lot really.
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Here's another shot with the EC-7's after the car got a good wash this weekend. The wheel gap at stock height is still fine, doesn't bother me at all. I really couldn't be more pleased with how the car looks and drives.
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Signature Track series SV501. 19x9.5 / 10.5 with 255/35 and 275/35 Michelin Ps4s. Finished in brushed sapphire blue.
Looking at this again, this is perfect stock tire fitment with wider wheels. Just flawless, and the drop is just awesome. Well done sir.
Much appreciated, thank you!
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Here's another shot with the EC-7's after the car got a good wash this weekend. The wheel gap at stock height is still fine, doesn't bother me at all. I really couldn't be more pleased with how the car looks and drives.
It does look pretty good. No doubt about that!
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17' M2 - Stock Suspension \ No Camber Plates

Front: 19x9.5 ET26 (255/35/19) -1.0° Camber
Rears: 19x10.5 ET35 (275/35/19) -1.7° Camber

This rear is an aggressive fitment sticking out just under 3mm. The fronts are nearly flush.

No rubbing at stock height (tested with one adult passenger in the front and one pre-teen in the back while spirited driving on curvy mountain roads). No rubbing with steering wheel turned all the way, although it is VERY close with the Conti's.

The wheels are quite light for their size. Using my bathroom scale, the front wheels are about 21.6lbs and the rears 23.2lbs .






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Richland Forged -"Project Nürburg" (RF-GT4) wheels
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17' M2 - Stock Suspension \ No Camber Plates

Front: 19x9.5 ET26 (255/35/19) -1.0° Camber
Rears: 19x10.5 ET35 (275/35/19) -1.7° Camber

This rear is an aggressive fitment sticking out just under 3mm. The fronts are nearly flush.

No rubbing at stock height (tested with one adult passenger in the front and one pre-teen in the back while spirited driving on curvy mountain roads). No rubbing with steering wheel turned all the way, although it is VERY close with the Conti's.

The wheels are quite light for their size. Using my bathroom scale, the front wheels are about 21.6lbs and the rears 23.2lbs .
Let me see if I have this straight.

The front wheel is 9.3mm outboard of stock, which should be an easy fit with stock 245/35 tires at stock height or even lowered, as most guys run a 12mm spacer without issues.

The rear wheel is 11.4mm outboard of stock, which would be close with the stock 265/35 tires at stock height or lowered, as most guys run a 10mm spacer without issue.

So if someone is running stock tires, there should be no issues with these wheels (just a bit more tire stretch), correct?

Also, what is the stock negative camber?
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Let me see if I have this straight.

The front wheel is 9.3mm outboard of stock, which should be an easy fit with stock 245/35 tires at stock height or even lowered, as most guys run a 12mm spacer without issues.

The rear wheel is 11.4mm outboard of stock, which would be close with the stock 265/35 tires at stock height or lowered, as most guys run a 10mm spacer without issue.

So if someone is running stock tires, there should be no issues with these wheels (just a bit more tire stretch), correct?

Also, what is the stock negative camber?
That is correct, in fact, people with these offsets who are mildy lowered (mostly running BBS FI-R or BBS CI-R) appear to run 245\35 and 265\35 without issues.

When I had the wheels and tires installed, I had the shop check my alignment (they did NOT adjust as they found everything in spec). Therefor, the numbers I posted -1.0 in front and -1.7 at the rear, appears to be factory specs according to shop I took it to.
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Let me see if I have this straight.

The front wheel is 9.3mm outboard of stock, which should be an easy fit with stock 245/35 tires at stock height or even lowered, as most guys run a 12mm spacer without issues.

The rear wheel is 11.4mm outboard of stock, which would be close with the stock 265/35 tires at stock height or lowered, as most guys run a 10mm spacer without issue.

So if someone is running stock tires, there should be no issues with these wheels (just a bit more tire stretch), correct?

Also, what is the stock negative camber?
I was wondering if this setup F 19x9.5 ET22 R 19x10.5 ET35 with 265/30 and 285/30 would rub or touch the fenders if the car is lowered (with the stock camber). What do you think?
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I was wondering if this setup F 19x9.5 ET22 R 19x10.5 ET35 with 265/30 and 285/30 would rub or touch the fenders if the car is lowered (with the stock camber). What do you think?
It's good to remember that lowering usually helps outside fitment because it changes the angle when the tire moves upwards, and therefore provides more room. But by the same token, lowering makes it harder to fit a wider tire to the front because it will rub the fender liners.

So, having said that, rubbing up front on the inside with a 265 is hit or miss even on stock specs. Your specs are 4mm outboard of aggressive, so that might help with inside rubbing, but it's probably going to come down to the exact tire you choose if you rub outside or not.

I'd say with your specs you might choose stock sized tires first, as they are pretty aggressive.

Look at the Dinan car for a perfect example of how to do 265/285. On 9.5 +31 & 10.5 + 42 they went with a 265/30 & 285/30 for perfect fitment when lowering. Your specs are 9mm outside of that in front and 7mm outside of that in the rear.
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It's good to remember that lowering usually helps outside fitment because it changes the angle when the tire moves upwards, and therefore provides more room. But by the same token, lowering makes it harder to fit a wider tire to the front because it will rub the fender liners.

So, having said that, rubbing up front on the inside with a 265 is hit or miss even on stock specs. Your specs are 4mm outboard of aggressive, so that might help with inside rubbing, but it's probably going to come down to the exact tire you choose if you rub outside or not.

I'd say with your specs you might choose stock sized tires first, as they are pretty aggressive.

Look at the Dinan car for a perfect example of how to do 265/285. On 9.5 +31 & 10.5 + 42 they went with a 265/30 & 285/30 for perfect fitment when lowering. Your specs are 9mm outside of that in front and 7mm outside of that in the rear.
Yea, that looks spot on. Those Dinan wheels are beautiful. I just saw they are Forgeline with Dinan centercaps... Stunning.
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Yea, that looks spot on. Those Dinan wheels are beautiful. I just saw they are Forgeline with Dinan centercaps... Stunning.
Yeah, too bad about the price *gulp*
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COChris's silver EC-7's are, clearly, much easier to photograph than my black ones. :-)
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idk why the picture is so huge
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what size tires you end up with?
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Apex EC-7. Staggered M2C fitment.
what size tires you end up with?
Apex's recommended staggered fitment:

Front: 19x9.5" ET28 with 265/30-19 PS4S
Rear: 19x10.5" ET45 with 295/30-19 PS4S
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Apex's recommended staggered fitment:

Front: 19x9.5" ET28 with 265/30-19 PS4S
Rear: 19x10.5" ET45 with 295/30-19 PS4S
How are you liking the setup, outside of aesthetics, Chris? I've been very, very happy with it but curious for someone else's opinion.
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Apex's recommended staggered fitment:

Front: 19x9.5" ET28 with 265/30-19 PS4S
Rear: 19x10.5" ET45 with 295/30-19 PS4S
How are you liking the setup, outside of aesthetics, Chris? I've been very, very happy with it but curious for someone else's opinion.
More front and rear grip with the stock balance. Maybe a tad more rear grip than stock under hard braking. Turn-in is still good and the car is still playful.

If running a tune, I think more rear tire is an absolute must.
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More front and rear grip with the stock balance. Maybe a tad more rear grip than stock under hard braking. Turn-in is still good and the car is still playful.

If running a tune, I think more rear tire is an absolute must.
That's essentially my impressions, as well.

Edit: After a month and a half, I would not choose to return to the stock tire size.

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