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I have 4 manual cars, so I am thinking to add a DCT to alternate with my SCUD for Track days. I dont track that much though.
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For what is worth. Coming from a zf8 and I expect the DCT is better. I don't think you'd ever dislike the DCT. That manual shifting with the gear lever still provides satisfaction, but numb compared to full manual.
It's very nice when you want to be lazy, and you can never go partially auto with a 6MT. |
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Different opinion here apologies.
For what its worth I just picked up an M2CS and had ordered it in 6MT. My plan for this car was to be a fun daily in MT as an alternative to my Afla Quad Stelvio and 991 Porsche Speedster. All my cars have carbon ceramic breaks and I will say that the M2CS ones are amazing, worth the upgrade. As per the 6MT, I am not a fan of the BMW MT, I think if they don't invest in it might as well stop making it. Its very rubbery and the clutch delay valve is a disaster. Had I ordered this car again I would have gone DCT, I have even asked my rep to see if I can get another one in DCT. Its one heck of a package but now I fear I might have to do a ton of work to upgrade the MT and I am not a huge fan of modding my cars.
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It's not the transmission that is rubbery, it's the shift lever. It's BMWs best manual transmission to date.
If you want to add mechanical exactness then see Ronald for his shifter kits. http://www.autosolutions.info/ |
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Or does the trouble come in from the driver trying to modulate the clutch, but not being able to because there isn't a linear correlation between clutch pedal position and friction plate engagement? In other terms the driver lets out clutch, but perceives to little movement (cdv slowing things down), driver lets out clutch pedal more to induce desire engagement, but now this is too far???
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I still go back to my F30 that I drive every day. I don't have any issues with the clutch - it doesn't have the most obvious takeup point, but i have no issue shifting it smoothly. My gearshift lever is nice and smooth and lacks most of the "rubbery" feel, but I did swap to the MPerformance shift knob the day I bought it, which lacks as much of the isolator inside the shift knob. I'd consider the overall system one of the better manuals I've driven. This is including Porsche manual, Mazda, Honda, Toyota, etc. Including famed S2000, GT4, etc MT's. The OG M2 MT I test drove did not feel appreciably different either.
My E36 is pretty awful though, and I drove large trucks for a while in high school and college. So my spectrum is relatively wide Mountains out of molehills? *shrug*
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AS and other short shifter makers sometimes use a similar design but with a much firmer urethane to join the upper and lower half's of the shifter or a solid one piece lever, that along with tighter tolerance joints and bushings with all metal no plastic, shifter carriages are sometimes offered and carriage mount bushings made of firm urethane and Delrin take it to the next level. Not all parts are offered for every car as some models need things more than others. |
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I never touched the shifter in the 1M, felt it was ok, now my E46 M3 is another story, I felt that really needed improvement, Ronald (auto solutions)provided me a customized full kit for that and it's super precise without being to stiff or short/tight. Also had a AS shifter in my E36M3 for most of it's life.
Looking at the Rogue vs Auto solutions I can see the AS kit includes a additional link between the lever and transmission as well as his own design knuckle pivot that attaches to the transmission as well as all metal joints and ball on the lever (no plastic). |
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https://www.zeckhausen.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=6562 Interesting that bmw deleted a cdv in an e39 m5 which now explains why my e39 m5 drives shifts like my porsche compared to my f10 m5. This is the solution, do a cdv delete on all m2 mt and it will be heaven. |
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