[GM2CS]

Originally Posted by Davil

I'm not much of a Porsche fan, but if I had a massive garage a 993 would be in there. I love those. I didn't like the 992 at all it felt so clinical and almost boring. Probably a different experience if you track it though.

I do think you get a far better perspective of your car when you own a few nice ones and rotate them. You appreciate the specialness each one has. If you drive the same car each day you just get too used to that car and it somehow feels less special, no matter what it is.

Good point about when you have more than one choice that it does make each one feel a little more special. The saying: "absence does make the heart grow fonder" is true. All of these subjective arguments over which car is better than the other can get ridiculous quickly. Most top tier enthusiasts cars provide unique driving experiences. Each one is a little different and personal preference can dictate which is best.

My CS is an amazing car and very special but I wouldn't want to drive it every time I need to go somewhere. Sometimes the mood is more chill and I don't want all the feedback. Same debate (that drives me crazy) about the GT3 being better than the Turbo S. It's better at some things and worse at others. The cars were designed to have completely different objectives.

[ChiTownM]

I have never owned a P-car but always liked the 911. Came close once. 997 was sold by the dealer the day I went to negotiate for it, ended up buying an e92 M3 which I still own. 40K miles of fun. On a dubious list with a deposit for a 992 GT3, but given the current situation with Porsche, not certain that will ever materialize. I still would not sell the CS for it unless the value keeps increasing.

If anybody has a good P-car dealer relationship to put me on a transparent 992 GT3 or GTS list (deposit is not an issue), let me know please.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by ptgltw

Continuing the Porsche thread theme:

Best car ever made? It's got my vote.....my son in the seat. I wish I was 16 again.

We traded a Toyota 86 in on it, lol. True story.

Best car ever made.

[GM2CS]

Originally Posted by ChiTownM

I have never owned a P-car but always liked the 911. Came close once. 997 was sold by the dealer the day I went to negotiate for it, ended up buying an e92 M3 which I still own. 40K miles of fun. On a dubious list with a deposit for a 992 GT3, but given the current situation with Porsche, not certain that will ever materialize. I still would not sell the CS for it unless the value keeps increasing.

If anybody has a good P-car dealer relationship to put me on a transparent 992 GT3 or GTS list (deposit is not an issue), let me know please.

I had a e90 M3. I still think about that car. The chassis is sublime on those M's

[M3R1]

Originally Posted by GM2CS

I had a e90 M3. I still think about that car. The chassis is sublime on those M's

This is the car I owned before my M2c and now M2cs. I love my cs and will likely never sell it, but a strong argument could be made that I made a mistake selling. In this case the grass might have simply been a different shade of green. Both shades were quite spectacular...











Here is the mod list

-BE rod bearings / ARP bolts (done at 20xxx miles)
https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=387
-Forgestar F14 SDC 19x10 ET20 ,19x11 ET27
-MPS4 275/295
-Ohlins R&T CO's
-ESS VT2-625 (blue injectors) installed @ 17700 miles
-Brembo BBK 380x34mm / 380x28mm
-Challenge sport X pipe with high flow cats
-2 3/4 exhaust mod
-Ashtray Gage pod with ///M gages
-M5 shifter
-Bimmerretrofit rear view camera
-LCI tails
-Black out M3 side and rear badges
-Body color hood vents
-etc..

[///393]

Damn man. Feel your pain on that one.

I’ve been running around with a friends E92 with full exhaust and I totally get it. Can’t imagine that sound, AND the power from some boost.

[M3R1]

Originally Posted by wilson kop

Damn man. Feel your pain on that one.

I’ve been running around with a friends E92 with full exhaust and I totally get it. Can’t imagine that sound, AND the power from some boost.

Only 24k miles as well.. Look at the drivers seat bolster!! F'in sexy car!!!

Truth be told if it had a carbon roof I might have kept it.

[frostyrides]

Originally Posted by M3R1

This is the car I owned before my M2c and now M2cs. I love my cs and will likely never sell it, but a strong argument could be made that I made a mistake selling. In this case the grass might have simply been a different shade of green. Both shades were quite spectacular...











Here is the mod list

-BE rod bearings / ARP bolts (done at 20xxx miles)
https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=387
-Forgestar F14 SDC 19x10 ET20 ,19x11 ET27
-MPS4 275/295
-Ohlins R&T CO's
-ESS VT2-625 (blue injectors) installed @ 17700 miles
-Brembo BBK 380x34mm / 380x28mm
-Challenge sport X pipe with high flow cats
-2 3/4 exhaust mod
-Ashtray Gage pod with ///M gages
-M5 shifter
-Bimmerretrofit rear view camera
-LCI tails
-Black out M3 side and rear badges
-Body color hood vents
-etc..

Beautiful car!

[M3R1]

Originally Posted by frostyrides

Beautiful car!

It sure was! I still keep in touch with the owner, he adores it.

[Davil]

Originally Posted by M3R1

This is the car I owned before my M2c and now M2cs. I love my cs and will likely never sell it, but a strong argument could be made that I made a mistake selling. In this case the grass might have simply been a different shade of green. Both shades were quite spectacular...

Gorgeous.

I also am lucky enough to have another car with a manual, naturally aspirated V8, hydraulic steering, no electronic aids with the gearbox. It's the perfect complement to the CS. Such a different driving experience. One isn't better than the other but having both makes you love each car more.

[NYNick]

Originally Posted by Davil

I also am lucky enough to have another car... One isn't better than the other but having both makes you love each car more.

This is all a real car guy cares about....

[M3R1]

Originally Posted by Davil

Gorgeous.

I also am lucky enough to have another car with a manual, naturally aspirated V8, hydraulic steering, no electronic aids with the gearbox. It's the perfect complement to the CS. Such a different driving experience. One isn't better than the other but having both makes you love each car more.

I will likely add and E9x M3 in the near future. While they are not "fast" by today's standards, they have a soul that only a few cars have. If you have driven one you know. The spec sheet cannot convey this.

Side note, the M2c/cs have that intangible feeling as well. While the sound in stock form can't rival the S65, the driving dynamics exceeds it.

[NYNick]

Originally Posted by M3R1

I will likely add and E9x M3 in the near future. While they are not "fast" by today's standards, they have a soul that only a few cars have. If you have driven one you know.

Correct. Or try a BMW 2002, tii or non tii. Or almost any air cooled Porsche. This is exactly how they feel. Not fast but my God, the soul of these cars is palpable.

I think soul is the essence of a great car.

[M3R1]

Originally Posted by NYNick

Correct. Or try a BMW 2002, tii or non tii. Or almost any air cooled Porsche. This is exactly how they feel. Not fast but my God, the soul of these cars is palpable.

I think soul is the essence of a great car.

I read a post here a while ago (M3 section) that really struck a chord with me.

"A cars performance makes you buy it, a cars soul makes you keep it..."

For me this applies to my 6th gen 1LE and my E92, however I did not keep it. I do not miss the 1LE even though objectively and dynamically the car was astonishingly good (dare I say great), I bought it because of the performance envelope. My ESS E92 tickled every part on me and made an impression that I cannot shake.

[NYNick]

Originally Posted by M3R1

I read a post here a while ago (M3 section) that really struck a chord with me.

"A cars performance makes you buy it, a cars soul makes you keep it..."

For me this applies to my 6th gen 1LE and my E92, however I did not keep it. I do not miss the 1LE even though objectively and dynamically the car was astonishingly good (dare I say great), I bought it because of the performance envelope. My ESS E92 tickled every part on me and made an impression that I cannot shake.

I completely understand. My 78 911 is like that for me. I'm never selling that car. Ever.

[Bokke]

Still have my E90 M3, it sounds so sweet - just hit 95,xxx miles...

Also had one of the 1 of 20 Frozen Black E92's, I WISH I still had it.....

[Davil]

Originally Posted by NYNick

I think soul is the essence of a great car.

This.

[Reddevils7]

Originally Posted by M3R1

I will likely add and E9x M3 in the near future. While they are not "fast" by today's standards, they have a soul that only a few cars have. If you have driven one you know. The spec sheet cannot convey this.

Side note, the M2c/cs have that intangible feeling as well. While the sound in stock form can't rival the S65, the driving dynamics exceeds it.

The e92 indeed has a unique soul. Will never be another m3 like it again. I just went from an f82 stage 1 with m performance exhaust for just over 4 years to an f87 cs. The steering feel alone is miles better. I had the gts flash on the m4 but it still has the dead zone to some degree. In terms of suspension, I was running Bilstein b16d on the m4 so this is definitely more compliant. The cs came with kw has which I'm enjoying for now. I actually like the cs exhaust tone (no burbles) but it's extremely tame compared to the m performance. Getting the full AA signature tomorrow 🔥 🤗

[ChiTownM]

Ok, I'll play…..2009, pushing 40K miles, single hump DCT stripper, cloth seats.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Bokke

Still have my E90 M3, it sounds so sweet - just hit 95,xxx miles...

Also had one of the 1 of 20 Frozen Black E92's, I WISH I still had it.....

You've got an amazing set of cars, pretty much all the ones I'd want to own.

[RPM33]

Originally Posted by Jimjamz

Your post hits several buttons for me. Firstly, your taste is impeccable - I placed an EOI on a 992 GTS manual today (P are not taking new 911 deposit orders until the LCI 911 is announced and order books opened!). I'm at the back of a long queue though for me patience is a virtue. This will probably end up being for a '24 or '25 car.

I read the post you shared. Respect to the P community and the members on that forum. A few tossers - though pulled into line quickly.

What does EOI stand for? Trying to get a GT4 allocation or a 992.2 911 allocation myself.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by RPM33

What does EOI stand for? Trying to get a GT4 allocation or a 992.2 911 allocation myself.

Expression of interest (it's not a binding contract but gives a chance to put your name down if and when there are enough stock)