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      05-03-2020, 10:16 PM   #1783
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Cars showing up for sale in Australia

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Interesting market in Australia . . . appears everything costs double what it does in the U.S. with regard to M2C and M2CS. Have no idea of the financial structure in Australia, including currency exchange, but $120K for an M2C and $165K for an M2CS sounds REALLY expensive in any currency and market. I assume that is why there are so many of each, in relative terms, available.

Best paint to wheel color combo is still HS and black. . . Competition or CS.

Fact that there are so many M2CS available seems to lend credence to notion that prospective buyers are not lined up to obtain M2CS. Multiple factors, of course, including Covid, economy, cost . . . and what I perceive as an overall lack of interest associated with what the M2CS does not offer over the M2C for price differential.

Finally, on the Australian website it indicates 'drive away' which I assume means the M2CS listed are available at dealership? At very least, it appears all are already spec'd and without option for purchaser optioning? If so, how is it possible the M2CS is already available and BMW has yet to even pursue a press release?

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In Australia M2C is USD$70k
M2cs is USD$98k

Drive away means final price including all taxes of which there are many. But Australian average salaries are generally higher than US.

For comparison drive away price on 992 Carrera 2s here is usd$210k

If you click the ad you will see the words "available to order". There no cars in the country.

So it's either click bait to get people to call or perhaps one or two people have dropped out.
Thank you Davil.

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I'm still deciding on HS or MB. I change my mind every second day.

I finally saw another HS M2c on the road the other day. I've seen them in every other colour but HS. It looked sensational. He was behind me swapping lanes for a good 10-15 minutes. This was just after I has "decided" on MB. It's funny how you stare at your own car all the time but never really see how it looks on the road. So this was an eye opener. Like a new context that made me love the colour all over again.

One thing I do know is that no way in hell will I be getting those gold wheels. 🤮
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Jeez. I just read on the AU forum that some guy picked up a brand new M2C for AUS 92k / USD 58k. I guess this covid thing is having an effect.
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I'm still deciding on HS or MB. I change my mind every second day.

I finally saw another HS M2c on the road the other day. I've seen them in every other colour but HS. It looked sensational. He was behind me swapping lanes for a good 10-15 minutes. This was just after I has "decided" on MB. It's funny how you stare at your own car all the time but never really see how it looks on the road. So this was an eye opener. Like a new context that made me love the colour all over again.

One thing I do know is that no way in hell will I be getting those gold wheels. 🤮
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As set as I am on the MB with gold wheels, I have to admit the murdered out CS with the CCB's is damned hot.
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At any rate, clearly Australians are not lined up to get the M2CS, and I would not be surprised to see U.S. dealerships with M2CS sitting on their lot at some point as well.
I guess that most dealerships will be cautious: only order an M2 CS if they got a signed order or if they want to keep the car for themselves (showroom car).
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The gold wheels IMO look even better under those direct sunlight shots as it appears they are far more faded than the strong yellowish tone the fluorescent lights in showrooms seem to (falsely relative to real-world) accentuate.

All this 'hate' about them here is kinda funny. If you were to just hope over to the Porsche boards you'll see majority of ppl have been going gaga over the - mind you a USD $13K option - gold magnesium wheels on the GT3/2 RS...
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Thanks for those pics F87 M2CS I think I'm back on the clown car spec.
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Hahah , same but just added those ccb , i know i dont really need them , just thought are going to look nice .
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Thanks for those pics F87 M2CS I think I'm back on the clown car spec.
Hahah , same but just added those ccb , i know i dont really need them , just thought are going to look nice .
Wouldn't it just then be cheaper - a lot cheaper - to get the calipers painted? I mean, that is all BMW (or their supplier) does.

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Thanks for those pics F87 M2CS I think I'm back on the clown car spec.
Thinking the same for me. MB and red brakes for sure...just deciding on black or gold wheels.
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Thanks for those pics F87 M2CS I think I'm back on the clown car spec.
Hahah , same but just added those ccb , i know i dont really need them , just thought are going to look nice .
Wouldn't it just then be cheaper - a lot cheaper - to get the calipers painted? I mean, that is all BMW (or their supplier) does.

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Just because the deal i had worth the ccb !
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I just can't do the CCB's knowing I will track the car regularly. Too much pain in the ass, risk, and limiting of my options.
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Thanks for those pics F87 M2CS I think I'm back on the clown car spec.
Hahah , same but just added those ccb , i know i dont really need them , just thought are going to look nice .
Wouldn't it just then be cheaper - a lot cheaper - to get the calipers painted? I mean, that is all BMW (or their supplier) does.

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Just because the deal i had worth the ccb !
Not sure what kind of 'deal' you got, but $8K for CCB versus $80 for paint job is near impossible to beat if you think they just 'look nice.'

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Wouldn't it just then be cheaper - a lot cheaper - to get the calipers painted? I mean, that is all BMW (or their supplier) does.

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Sort of, you have to do some serious high temp powder coat to get it to last if you will track or anything, which is doable, and you are right a lot cheaper in the end. But pulling apart the brakes, having the car down for a few weeks, rebuilding the entire assemblies after, etc. Not totally simple to do right. If the powdercoater screws up on of the assemblies, not cheap either (if you can't get them to take liability which can be tougher to prove than you'd hope). So while "cheaper", not cheap.
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Thanks for those pics F87 M2CS I think I'm back on the clown car spec.
Hahah , same but just added those ccb , i know i dont really need them , just thought are going to look nice .
Wouldn't it just then be cheaper - a lot cheaper - to get the calipers painted? I mean, that is all BMW (or their supplier) does.

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Just because the deal i had worth the ccb !
Not sure what kind of 'deal' you got, but $8K for CCB versus $80 for paint job is near impossible to beat if you think they just 'look nice.'

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Would you skipped them for 1K euro?
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Why is BMW copying the Subaru sti look?
Didnt knew that subaru bought the trademarks and the patent of a " blue car with gold wheels " should always be called subaru Sure iconic for the STI , but a lot manufacturers use gold/bronze wheels on cars .
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Would you skipped them for 1K euro?
Yes . . . do you think the dealer just decided to give up $7K, or whatever translates to the Euro CCB option cost? Nah, you paid for those gold calipers one way or another.

Anyway, we could go back and forth all day and not get anywhere. You said you like the way the gold calipers look compared to the red calipers. Great. I was simply stating there are a lot cheaper and 100% equally effective ways to get the ‘look’ you are after.

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