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LBB wasn't an M exclusive color though. It was also available on the X4 and was actually the launch color for the F26 X4 M40i.
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It's not hard to spec out an M2C to be knocking on the door of an M2CS pretty quickly. My manual M2C list price was $74k, after the gold M763 wheels it was 80K. That didn't include the M performance suspension which was close to another $5k after install/alignment. Now you have a car within spitting distance of an M2CS. It has nicer rear exhaust tips but that's about it. Everything else on the CS is just better/cooler/more special.
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It's funny, because it's not like he didn't like the car (other than the color lol .. and even that he admired in the shade). He devoted the most time to how good the handling and ride were. Emphasized improved steering (first review where I saw that emphasized) among all the other virtues. His conclusion really was a non sequitur. By his own tally it would cost as much to try to reinvent the CS from a Comp. I took away he would enjoy the upgrading process itself, and the uniqueness of the result, and be able to sequence it in a way that worked financially and temporally. Not that the Comp route was truly a sound value proposition (even though he stated as much).
If I were to summarize just about every other review of the CS, "the whole is greater than the sum of the parts." This is the key point that this reviewer would not accept. |
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It should be clear to anyone now (including Artemis, who is surely too educated and knowledgable to still be flying this flag) that an M2 Comp with MPerformance parts will never get close to being a CS. The sum of all the bespoke CS (and non MPerformance branded) parts/materials together with the handling, engine and power delivery improvements easily place the CS on a higher level. Chris Harris and the Top Gear team just placed it 3rd in their annual 'best performance car' awards behind the 911 Turbo and Ferrari F8 Tributo. The Comp (great car that it is - I've owned one for two years) went out in the first round of last years competition. If, like many think, it is indeed just the MPerformance parts that have made the difference this year then I suggest we all better go and buy them before they sell out fast! Also, be fair to MR he does live in a country where the CS is somewhat ridiculously priced at €108K. He did say if it was positioned in the c€85-€90k bracket (like a lot of other EU markets, including the UK) then it would be more of a one way 'take my money conversation'. It's a special little car (with 4 seats) and I think the people that know, know and those that don't, don't. |
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I like how it seems that the CS shines in the *drive it like you stole it." Mentality. I bought it to beat on.
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Interesting read, thanks for the comments on the video! I always take all in either it being negative or positive. This is what I felt about the car and therefore shared it. Others might have other opinions.
With regards to the roof, I can say the following that it is major "f*** up" by BMW M. I got info about the roof from an insider and what I heard was like #triplefacepalm Just to summarize the final outcome... The roof is painted and tinted to disguise errors you can see from a distance. They do this three or four times and sand it down by hand after every layer of clear coat just to make sure you don't notice it. Yep, let that sink in... The roof was not meant to be like this and everyone knows it in Garching. MR |
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Nothing more than that the solution for those problems came too late to homologate the car and have it in time ready for market release. Europe would have missed out too much on the CS due to the production stop in September. Anyhow, there are tons of CS cars unsold here in Europe. One person came to me and said he had access to a fair bunch parked in a warehouse produced during Corona time earlier this year, but impossible to sell. Just too expensive, nobody wants one. They are stuck with them similar to what we saw with M3 and M4 CS models which were piled up in dealer storages, and only sold after months and years accompanied by immense discounts of up to 35 percent. And that is still happening up to now!! Even more so, because dealers want to get rid of their M3's and M4's because the new one is arriving in March. So for those of you who are destined on getting themselves a M2 CS, wait, just wait, really just wait… In Europe, you will find delivery mileage cars by the end of this year or maybe even in 2021, which dealers will offer you at extremely favorable price tags just to get rid of them in a market where car sales have taken a hit and will continue to struggle in the years to come. Quote:
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2nd- cars being available overseas and taking discounts is also why. Listen; if you want to secure that perfect spec then go for it. If I’m lucky enough to find a misano blue with manual in a few months on even a 5 or ten percent discount, I’d take it. But I couldn’t do msrp and taxes and then hear about such QC issues. If it was happening to paint everyone would be complaining. This car at msrp was a gamble- if you just wanted it without question then more power to you- but I couldn’t do it. If I was purchasing this vehicle cash to add to my fleet sure, but as a primary vehicle on a finance how well the car performs in 3 - 5 years in the used market will dictate how long you have to keep the car and whether or not you’re even upside down on a finance. Last edited by gemini.m3; 10-09-2020 at 12:06 PM.. |
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Enjoy it man, we all got our opinions - can't wait to see you share some pics!
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I'll say it again...IMO, either accept the M2C for what it is or go for the M2CS. Once you are trying to replicate the CS, then that is car you want and it will be hard for you to be happy with it. ("See, it's basically a CS, but here's what I did...). I am completely at peace with my M2C for DD activities and look forward to perhaps seeing a CS on the road and giving the owner a thumbs up!
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