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      12-12-2019, 07:32 AM   #661
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85-95k USD (111K to 125K CDN) preTaxes and dealership fees.

Even more expensive than fully loaded M340 with all the M Performance accessories.

Downpayment for a home! 2 M2 CS = 1 Condo home!!
Interesting pricing system. In that case the M2cs is a bargain here as it's 5 x M2cs for a very average apartment. 10 x M2cs for a reasonable house.
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Downpayment for a home! 2 M2 CS = 1 Condo home!!
People who buy cars like the M2 CS don't need money for a home.
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People who buy cars like the M2 CS don't need money for a home.
Kepler is right. Each person has their own budget. Some are not constrained by housing costs so they have more for car costs. The CS is not for everyone. The M2 Competition will be in production until June 2021 or you can always get a low miles 2018 for even less. I do think the M2 CS is a bargain compared to an M8.
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      12-12-2019, 09:16 AM   #664
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Saying the M2C is a bargain compared to the M2CS is legit. . . comparing the M2CS to the M8 is not. I doubt there are many, if any, contemplating an M2CS versus M8 at this moment.

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      12-12-2019, 11:04 AM   #665
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People who buy cars like the M2 CS don't need money for a home.
I think that there are a lot of people that are maxed out on payments and buy stuff that they can't afford. The saying goes "they are making payments like everyone else."
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      12-12-2019, 11:13 AM   #666
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People who buy cars like the M2 CS don't need money for a home.
I think that there are a lot of people that are maxed out on payments and buy stuff that they can't afford. The saying goes "they are making payments like everyone else."
Isn't that the American way of commerce?

Seriously, I hear you on this; if I purchase a CS at 85k plus 9% taxes, even with a $10,000 down payment, it works out to $1,500 for 60 months.. $20 less than my mortgage.

To be honest, anyone not pulling in over $250,000 a year, which is 35% of 85k, should not consider a CS because they're clearly overextending themselves financially.

Unless they're a well off, a Trust Fund Baby or have a rich sugar daddy, it's a bad financial move.
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At the end of the day, people should determine if they want the CS or not and if they can reasonably afford it. If yes to both questions, then try for an allocation.
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Saying the M2C is a bargain compared to the M2CS is legit. . . comparing the M2CS to the M8 is not. I doubt there are many, if any, contemplating an M2CS versus an M8 at this moment.
Well I think the M2 CS is a lot less than the 911 Carrera S at $130k plus with reasonable options. I'm not interested at all in a M4 or M8. I can't do GT4 because I need an automatic. M4 and especially M8 are just too big.

I do understand as I wish the M2 CS base was high 70's at say $77 or $78k.
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Saying the M2C is a bargain compared to the M2CS is legit. . . comparing the M2CS to the M8 is not. I doubt there are many, if any, contemplating an M2CS versus an M8 at this moment.
Well I think the M2 CS is a lot less than the 911 Carrera S at $130k plus with reasonable options. I'm not interested at all in a M4 or M8. I can't do GT4 because I need an automatic. M4 and especially M8 are just too big.

I do understand as I wish the M2 CS base was high 70's at say $77 or $78k.
Do you think the M2CS is comparable to the Carrera 911 S?

You are comparing apples to oranges.

The best comparison for the M2CS is the M2C, and you aren't getting what you pay for with one, and a lot more with the other.

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If I wanted a CS, and I were not #1 on a list. I would come into the forum to troll everyone into jumping ship due to being an overpriced moneygrab. Thus freeing up all the CSs for myself.
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If I wanted a CS, and I were not #1 on a list. I would come into the forum to troll everyone into jumping ship due to being an overpriced moneygrab. Thus freeing up all the CSs for myself.
Medphys

I have no interest in the CS, regardless of price.

You can have my allocation 🤣

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If I wanted a CS, and I were not #1 on a list. I would come into the forum to troll everyone into jumping ship due to being an overpriced moneygrab. Thus freeing up all the CSs for myself.
Snag one for me while you're at it lol!
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Do you think the M2CS is comparable to the Carrera 911 S?

You are comparing apples to oranges.

The best comparison for the M2CS is the M2C, and you aren't getting what you pay for with one, and a lot more with the other.

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No I don't think the CS is comparable to a 911 Carrera S. Probably not even close. I'm afraid to test drive the Carrera S because I know how much I would want it. But I can't afford a 911 comfortable at this time so I'm pursuing a CS which fits into the budget easier. Can't do a GT4 because I need an automatic. Want something more powerful than a 718 Cayman GTS. So M2 CS it is. I'm sure I can do a 911 a few years later.
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If I wanted a CS, and I were not #1 on a list. I would come into the forum to troll everyone into jumping ship due to being an overpriced moneygrab. Thus freeing up all the CSs for myself.

You go for it baller!

Us peasants will just admire you from the bus stop.
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      12-12-2019, 03:04 PM   #675
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You go for it baller!

Us peasants will just admire you from the bus stop.
Lol, folks talking P-cars, this will be less than those.
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No I don't think the CS is comparable to a 911 Carrera S. Probably not even close. I'm afraid to test drive the Carrera S because I know how much I would want it. But I can't afford a 911 comfortable at this time so I'm pursuing a CS which fits into the budget easier. Can't do a GT4 because I need an automatic. Want something more powerful than a 718 Cayman GTS. So M2 CS it is. I'm sure I can do a 911 a few years later.
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This is obviously a forum where views and opinions are presented and discussed – and seldom agreed upon. Ultimately, I applaud anyone and everyone for getting what is best for THEM. So, my replies to your posts are not intended to be ‘right,’ rather, just an ongoing discussion regarding the topic at hand.

Are you looking to track you M2CS? I assume such to be the case given your consideration between a 911 S, 718 GT4 and M2CS?

You indicate the 911 S is too expensive at this time, and you are not interested in a GT4 because it is currently only available with a manual transmission. True, but the starting price of a new GT4 is $100K ($113K for 911 S), both significantly more than the projected $84K for the M2CS. The GT4 is comparable to the 911 S, but neither are comparable to the M2CS when it comes to price or performance.

You indicate you want something more powerful than a 718 CGTS. If you are a tracker, I am sure you realize there is far more to track times than ‘power.’ I am not going to go into comparison between the GTS and M2C regarding performance, track or otherwise. Two completely different cars, and I have my own opinion. What I will say about ‘power’ is that the M2C really doesn’t offer anything over the GTS when you take into consideration variables such as weight; the GTS weighs some 600-650 lbs less than the M2C.

So, as to the topic of this thread - and regarding ‘power’ - you reference wanting an M2CS. The best comparison is the M2C. The M2CS offers no significant weight-reduction compared to the M2C. Although the M2CS (444 hp) offers 39 hp more than the M2C (405 hp), they both offer the same torque (406 lb-ft). Again, with track reference, the 39 extra hp is nominal, and only ever really going to come into play during high speeds along straights. So, comparing the M2CS to the M2C, not sure where you are getting any significant power gains?

If you want a M2CS, that is awesome. I have zero problem whatsoever with anyone’s desire or preference toward any purchase they decide to make. All I am trying to say is (1) the M2CS is not comparable to the GT4 or 991 S in performance or price. (2) As per your interest in more ‘power,’ the M2CS offers no significant power gains over the M2C, nor the 718 CGTS in relative terms.

If your purchase interests do not revolve around tracking, then none of this means anything, power or otherwise. The M2C, M2CS, GT4, 911 S all offer more street power than any road can handle. It would simply come down to what you want and can afford. If you want an M2CS, go for it. I am sure it will be great!

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You go for it baller!

Us peasants will just admire you from the bus stop.
Lol, folks talking P-cars, this will be less than those.
Your right, which is odd because truth be told, If had the paper for a P car, I wouldn't be here..

Just staying in my lane..

But seriously, I hope you do get your hands on a CS and give us a thorough feedback, so I can at least live vicariously through your experience
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Lol, folks talking P-cars, this will be less than those.
I think the P car comparison comes up because the average person on this board attributes a higher value or perception with Porsche vs. BMW. As a result, the price of admission is "easier" to internalize because the prevailing theory is that the overall package from Porsche is more appropriate at the 85K+ price range.

Having owned one Porsche (981 CS) and several BMWs, I can relate to that sentiment, and definitely understand it. Typically, BMW M presents somewhat of a value proposition, by giving a pretty unique blend of luxury and performance/potential track use out of a single vehicle.

However, from an objective data perspective, the M2CS is really pushing the limits of that successful formula, because it's not punching above its considerable weight (pun intended), performance-wise, at this price point, nor is it providing a significant difference in luxury, as compared to the OG M2 or M2C. While there are other positive attributes solely available in the M2CS and include options people have been wanting to see on a factory produced M2 (Cf Roof, M3 tune from the factory, etc.) I think the exclusivity is the main feather in the M2CS' hat that makes the 84K starting price somewhat palatable. And that's just not enough for me to get one, even though I am sure the car will be very, very good.
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Nice part about what you mention regarding the P-car is that most any iteration is well put together. Precision for it's point in time. Making the used market an incredible value. Is the 992 superior to the 991? Arguably so, but you can get into low mileage a 991 7 speed with an original 130k+ sticker in the $70s. Most of the depreciation has happened and one can drive up the miles feeling good about it.
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Did they fix the M Performance Exhaust rattle (due to sh*t mid-pipe design) on the M2C?

Can't wait to see a $90k M2CS roll down the street with a rattling exhaust
Although the M2 CS gets a slightly different exhaust, I don't think it is coming from the factory with the M Performance Exhaust
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Did they fix the M Performance Exhaust rattle (due to sh*t mid-pipe design) on the M2C?

Can't wait to see a $90k M2CS roll down the street with a rattling exhaust
Although the M2 CS gets a slightly different exhaust, I don't think it is coming from the factory with the M Performance Exhaust
I have a 2017 M2 Perf Ed with the Perf Exhaust and it rattled like crazy until my dealer fixed it and been perfect ever since. It sounds great!
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Nice part about what you mention regarding the P-car is that most any iteration is well put together. Precision for it's point in time. Making the used market an incredible value. Is the 992 superior to the 991? Arguably so, but you can get into low mileage a 991 7 speed with an original 130k+ sticker in the $70s. Most of the depreciation has happened and one can drive up the miles feeling good about it.
And in your example, you also get the awesome F6 howl.

I was actually looking at Evoras today...which sort of straddle the M2CS price point (used are ~70K and new are 95K+).

Problem for me is that the closest dealer is in Austin (I am in Dallas)...but man that baby is HOT, and different.
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