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Are the M2 and M2C factory rubber the same? The new Michelins are substantially better than the PSS. I'm a little surprised to see a 4.0 0-60. IIRC, the OG M2 has published magazine times of 3.9 (although that could be differences in roll-out).
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Both are shod with the same 245-265/35R19 PSS.
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The F80 is the same way - just how the S55 works I guess.
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Agreed. Because you know, everyone is using every stop light and situation to test their 0-60 time. It's a decent indicator but it shouldn't have the gravity it does in today's world. Want fast 0-60? Buy an AWD, automatic, electric vehicle. Want fun? Anything in under 5 seconds with a stick and RWD will be fun.
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I was a little disappointed by the seemingly minimal difference between the OG and M2C in this test. I agree it needed to be more extensive. The figure eight that MT does will be interesting.
In any event, there are things to like about each car. I think the S55 and the seats are obvious wins for the M2C. I may be in the minority, but I think the old school grill on the OG M2 is cleaner. It's also not nearly as portly as the M2C. Finally, while better than the F80/82/83 iterations, I am not convinced the M2C sounds better than the OG M2. I was trying really hard not to say anything about the reverse fupa on the M2C, but alas, there it is. Some things just can't be unseen.
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This was discussed in another thread including the misleading title to the article that their own data shows is completely untrue. I'll just copy/paste my post from the other thread:
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02-21-2019, 08:09 PM | #40 |
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Didn't say it was impossible. M3 and M4, which are much more relevant because they use the same engine as the M2C do not really have problems with it stock.
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This M2 vs. M2C debate reminds me so much of the e9# 328i vs. 335i debates from about 10 years ago. The M2/M2C is a great car that is way too fast for the road. Who cares about a few tenths of a second.
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And that's what I'm feeling vs my former OG M2 and I like that and I do that stuff overhere(which is possible living in this area of our country and living about an hour driving from the German Autobahn ) But still, traction issues on both M2 to 60mph and beyond that M2C is king. It's not a few tenths M2C is pulling way faster beyond 120mph to 150mph FWIW.... I remember 328 Fxx vs 335 Fxx discussion. How a 240Hp 'lightweight' 4 pot can be as fast as a 'heavyweight' 6 pot 306HP car. From 0-60 it could, but for the rest not so much But anyway, I need some coffee first. 6:30AM CET Cheers Robin Last edited by Robin_NL; 02-22-2019 at 12:01 AM.. Reason: typo |
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In 100-200kph, M2C is 1~1.2s quicker. And thus will not be 3s quicker in 60-130mph. More like 1.5s max. C/D screwed up big time with this level of work. Do a google search you'll find so much more insightful critic on it. The writer should resign.
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in bold: No. I will explain: 100-200kmh is NOT 60-130mph... 100-200kmh= 62-124mph --->96.5kmh-209kmh= 60-130mph That's a huge difference.... And the M2c just way faster beyond 200kmh(124mph) where it counts in this case. It's time the USA is going to start working with METRIC numbers... Cheers Robin |
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