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      08-01-2019, 04:49 PM   #947
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I feel like a drunk guy in a strip club, literally falling asleep as this drags on.
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That interior reminds me on mine 15' F80 M3

CS should have better material, like Alcantara
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Analysis of photos of the parked M2 CS prototype:
  • what can be seen: 6-speed manual transmission. Misano Blue Metallic body color peeking through the camo. Carbon ceramic brakes (red 'code 2NH' brakes are standard - yellow CCB are optional). Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires. Double bubble CF roof. CF hood (featuring a power dome). CF front spoiler lip (splitter). CF trunk spoiler. CF rear diffuser. M alcantara steering wheel with perforated/pinched 12 o'clock marker and M1/M2 buttons. Adaptive M Suspension button is clearly visible on the center console. Red start/stop button. Still the familiar 'black panel' instrument panel.
  • what to further expect: the M2 CS gets 19" 763M wheels (not the 437M wheels (base M2) nor the 788M wheels (M2 Competition)). The M4 CS seats (featuring cut-outs) will feature red stitching (instead of grey) and the integrated head rests will feature the M stripe (as seen on a previously spotted M2 CS test mule). Safety belts will also feature the M stripe. Additional alcantara interior trim with perforated/pinched CS logo on the dash and M3/M4 CS style center console (no armrest). Tail lights will be darkened (blacklines).
  • what remains uncertain: at first glance (still) no air vent integrated inside the hood (as seen on the M3/M4 CS and M4 GTS) and (still) no M2 M Performance Parts functional side air vents. Time will tell whether any such features are hidden under the camo or whether not considered for the M2 CS.
  • what not to expect: there will be no armrest on the center console (M3/M4 CS design language). No sign of a head-up display option (unavailable on any current 2-Series). No comfort access option (M2/M2C). No glass roof option (M2/M2C). Body colors: no Long Beach Blue Metallic (M2/M2C), no Sunset Orange Metallic (M2C) and no Mineral Grey Metallic (M2).
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Well put and so true!

Every car comes with its own comprises and advantages, skewed one way or the other; so pick your poison
Agreed.

However, it would be nice to have the option to actually pick your poison by offering different configs. Porsche does that. You can make it more track focused by selecting bucket seats, opting out of infotainment, and many other things.
That's why my next car more than likely will be a Porsche.
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      08-01-2019, 05:11 PM   #951
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What is a realistic weight, 3,500 pounds with DCT and 3,450 pounds manual?
That would be realistic if they used an N55, OG brakes, OG exhaust, and deleted the extra cooling components.

I think a 40 lb reduction over the M2C is realistic, mostly coming from the wheels.
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I feel like a drunk guy in a strip club, literally falling asleep as this drags on.
+1

I said something similar about two months ago. It's not like we don't know what the CS is going to include at this point...get on with it FFS...
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Adaptive Suspension but no Comfort Access..

Hmm..

I guess you can't have it all..
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Latest look showing more!

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The 4th picture on the 3rd row, can someone explain what those buttons are near the manual stick? I have an OG M2, as I was just wondering what the buttons are?
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I heard a rumor that the carbon fiber roof won't be factory installed, rather it will be done at the port or third party. That can't be true?
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I feel like a drunk guy in a strip club, literally falling asleep as this drags on.
+1

I said something similar about two months ago. It's not like we don't know what the CS is going to include at this point...get on with it FFS...
They got some nerves to play with us
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I heard a rumor that the carbon fiber roof won't be factory installed, rather it will be done at the port or third party. That can't be true?
I doubt it, a roof is not like an competition exhaust, it must be glued and both front and rear windshield need to be installed after the roof...
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More food for thought ?


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That interior reminds me on mine 15' F80 M3

CS should have better material, like Alcantara
I'm curious to understand why people like better Alcantara rather than leather. I don't like the touch feeling, it attract dust and it's a pure industrial product. When it was designed is was supposed to be cheaper than leather (cost production is actually cheaper than leather) and now is priced as a luxury product which is not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcantara_(material)
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That interior reminds me on mine 15' F80 M3

CS should have better material, like Alcantara
I'm curious to understand why people like better Alcantara rather than leather. I don't like the touch feeling, it attract dust and it's a pure industrial product. When it was designed is was supposed to be cheaper than leather (cost production is actually cheaper than leather) and now is priced as a luxury product which is not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcantara_(material)
Cooler, doesn't get indigo transfer as easily, heated and cooled seats work faster, and some of us just prefer the look. It's like wood on the dash, some people like it, some don't. Good cloth is more appealing to me than most leathers, outside of a truly semi-aniline or full aniline option.
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More food for thought ?


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A few weeks ago, BMW M Motorsport presented its future plans for customer racing and announced a new entry-level model for grass roots and club racing. On 3rd August 2019, the new BMW M Motorsport customer racing car based on the BMW M2 Competition* will make its maiden race appearance at the legendary Nordschleife within the VLN Endurance Championship at the Nürburgring. At the wheel will be BMW Motorsport Junior Beitske Visser and Jörg Weidinger, test and development engineer at BMW M GmbH and himself a very successful BMW Sports Trophy competitor for many years. #BMWCustomerRacing #RaceTheLimit #BMWM

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I think the CS is going to be a gem.
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I think the CS is going to be a gem.
I completely agree - this should incorporate everything BMW has learned about the F87 chassis and S55.

It's just taking a looooooooooooong time for this to formally debut - with only ~2200 being available, it's important to know if this thing is going to be 70, 75, 80 or whatever from a pricing perspective.
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Cooler, doesn't get indigo transfer as easily, heated and cooled seats work faster, and some of us just prefer the look. It's like wood on the dash, some people like it, some don't. Good cloth is more appealing to me than most leathers, outside of a truly semi-aniline or full aniline option.
I have never had any alcantara (that I can remember anyway) but have always loved the look. Then I test drove a 2019 TT-RS that had it on the steering wheel...this was a "used" car with ~800 miles on the clock. And I really didn't like it - it felt like a smashed bath towel or something.

The steering wheel itself was awesome (love the flat bottom) but the alcantara covered essentially the left and right sides of the wheel. The top and bottom were perforated leather, which was really nice.

I really thought I would like it, but I didn't.
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I think the CS is going to be a gem.
I completely agree - this should incorporate everything BMW has learned about the F87 chassis and S55.

It's just taking a looooooooooooong time for this to formally debut - with only ~2200 being available, it's important to know if this thing is going to be 70, 75, 80 or whatever from a pricing perspective.
That's a good point. I go back and forth about whether or not I would get rid of my Individual ///M4 for an ///M2CS (...or just keep the ///M4) should the G8X disappoint me.
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In that video "more to come" fades into OC.

So October?
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That interior reminds me on mine 15' F80 M3

CS should have better material, like Alcantara
I'm curious to understand why people like better Alcantara rather than leather. I don't like the touch feeling, it attract dust and it's a pure industrial product. When it was designed is was supposed to be cheaper than leather (cost production is actually cheaper than leather) and now is priced as a luxury product which is not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcantara_(material)
I like the feel and the look. I love alcantara steering wheels and headliners. Whether or not I would like it as a seating surface depends on if I have a lot of people in and out my vehicle or not (...which I typically don't).
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I have never had any alcantara (that I can remember anyway) but have always loved the look. Then I test drove a 2019 TT-RS that had it on the steering wheel...this was a "used" car with ~800 miles on the clock. And I really didn't like it - it felt like a smashed bath towel or something.

The steering wheel itself was awesome (love the flat bottom) but the alcantara covered essentially the left and right sides of the wheel. The top and bottom were perforated leather, which was really nice.

I really thought I would like it, but I didn't.
Dmboone: Just curious, what is your opinion on the TTRS?
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