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APEX | NEW 19” EC-7 & SM-10 M2 & M2 Competition Wheels


M2 Competition: The Enthusiasts BMW

With modern BMWs growing ever larger, heavier and more complex with each successive generation, the F87 M2 and M2 Competiton have struck a balance between modern turbocharged power and the classic brand-defining compact packaging and balanced handling that defined their predecessors. This sweet spot has not gone unnoticed within the BMW enthusiast community with many owners falling in love with their M2. BMW also went beyond their past brake designs with the move to the Competition models by mounting huge brakes up front to handle the additional load of an S55 powered car hurtling into braking zones. With the 2NH steel brakes being standard in the US, 18” wheels were no longer an option. We knew 19s would be the way forward with the Competition cars and were excited to plan aggressive widths with offsets made specifically for this chassis. The EC-7s were born to clear massive brakes and their classic looks naturally lent themselves to the M2 chassis which made them the obvious choice for our M2 Competition wheels.

Learn more about our EC-7 wheels here: https://www.apexraceparts.com/our-wh...assic-ec7.html

EC-7 development:

You asked, we listened! We're excited to announce that we've developed an M2C-specific track setup that clears the new 2NH 400mm front/380mm rear factory big brake setup. Since no 18" wheel can fit over this monstrous brake setup, 19" wheels are required. Through community feedback, we decided to produce these fitments in our popular EC-7 design in widths and offsets that were specifically designed with the goal of maximizing tire width under the fenders with little to no modifications.

We referenced our existing 18” wheel specifications created for the standard M2 (18x9.5” ET28 / 18x10.5” ET40), and after much discussion and research, have decided to make a small change to the rear wheel offset that you’ll appreciate. Many M2 enthusiasts expressed concern with rear fender clearance especially with tire models that run wide. Since our mission was to provide M2 Competition owners with 19” wheel solutions that properly accommodated popular track and race tire compounds, we decided to raise the rear offset from ET40 to ET45. This small but meaningful change in offset moved the rear wheels 5mm inboard where there is room to spare while maintaining a flush fitment in relation to the fenders. The result is wheel specifications tailored for 265/30-19 front and 295/30-19 rear tires. Other staggered tire combinations will work but many popular r-compounds like Toyo R888-R, Michelin Sport Cup2, and Pirelli Trofeo R are only available in this particular front and rear size combination.

M2 CS: CCB Clearances

The announcement of the M2CS was no surprise to BMW enthusiasts. A final high-performance model to round out the top of the M2 line seemed inevitable but was still a welcome addition. Beyond the power bump, the optional ceramic brakes caught our eye. As the first M2 to be equipped with MCCBs, we wanted to ensure our wheels cleared these brakes with ease to give M2 CS owners an aftermarket option beyond their factory 763M wheels. With templates built from in-house laser scans powered by Creaform, we were able to confirm that our EC-7s and new SM-10s cleared these optional carbon brakes giving CS owners an easy and affordable way to increase grip front and rear.


SM-10s and the M2: Flow Forming Evolved

The EC-7s in our M2 Competition specification proved to be even more popular than we initially anticipated. As more and more of our customers expressed their appreciation for a wider wheel fitment optimized for their M2, we knew the community would embrace an additional design option in these sizes. Our SM-10 from the Evolution Line was the natural choice as it mirrored the EC-7’s excellent spoke-side brake clearance while bringing features normally reserved for forged wheels down to a flow-formed price point. Knurled bead seats keep tires from slipping on the wheels during hard braking and acceleration helping to keep wheelsets balanced and smooth both on track and on the drive home. Side spoke milling helps keep the weight of these wheels low and a redesigned inner lip reinforces the wheel in the most critical area of the barrel to reduce bends from offtrack excursions or unexpected potholes on the street. These are fantastic features for enthusiasts looking for the ideal dual-duty setup. Beyond the technical details, the SM-10’s modern design was well suited to the M2 chassis and has us excited for the future of APEX wheels on the M2 and M2 competition chassis!

Learn more about our SM-10 wheels here: https://www.apexraceparts.com/our-wh...tion-sm10.html

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Details and Specifications


EC-7 Finishes:



EC-7 Specifications:

➡︎ 19x9.5 ET28

Weight: 22.65 lbs
Face Profile: 3


➡︎ 19x10.5 ET45

Weight: 23.4 lbs
Face Profile: 3


SM-10 Finishes:



SM-10 Specifications:

➡︎ 19x9.5 ET28

Weight: ~22.6 lbs
Face Profile: 3


➡︎ 19x10.5 ET45

Weight: ~23.1 lbs
Face Profile: 3



Fitment Recommendations & Tire Availability




Staggered vs. Rotatable Square Configurations

As defined in the chart above, we anticipate the most popular setup to be the staggered wheel fitment wrapped in 265/295 tires. There are pros and cons of both staggered and square configurations, and a laundry list of contributing factors to conclude which is superior like chassis type, suspension components, alignment settings, HP and TQ figures, whether or not aero is present, etc., so for the sake of brevity lets keep the comparison high level.

Earlier generations like the E36, E46, and even the E9X M3 are typically better suited running a rotatable square setup. Not only does the ability to rotate wheels and tires on all four corners of the car have a dramatic impact on the seasonal tire budget, but these chassis also respond very well to square configurations from a performance perspective. Squaring things up is an easy way to dial out unwanted understeer while improving turn-in, and it often results in a more neutral handling experience overall. Square fitments can limit your tire width, as you are bound to what you can manage to fit under the narrower front fender arches. With the E36 (S50/S52), E46 (S54) and E9X (S65) M3 generations, the respective naturally aspirated power plants are not pumping out overwhelming amounts of horsepower or torque, therefore, with negative camber dialed in enthusiasts are able to stuff compounds that are plenty wide under the front fenders, and the rears simply follow suit. In short, by going with a rotatable square setup for the aforementioned chassis, you really aren't sacrificing rear end grip to gain all of the benefits square fitments have to offer.

Enter the F8X M generation which scavenges power through forced induction, the conversation becomes a little more interesting. It is up to the driver to decide which wheel and tire configuration best suit his/her personal skill level behind the wheel, driving style, seasonal budget, and ultimately goals and intentions when attending HPDE's. These cars can make some serious power with very simple modifications like a tune, so rear end grip becomes more of a concern. While one driver piloting an F8X M is perfectly satisfied running 275's on all four corners of the car to gain all of the benefits of a square setup, another driver in pursuit of shaving down lap times or finishing on the podium will prioritize maximizing front and rear end grip at all costs. As they say, big HP figures look attractive on paper, but you have to be able to put that power down to the pavement. This is most noticeable when applying throttle on corner exit, and cars like the Mustang GT350 and Camaro ZL1 1LE find themselves in the same predicament.

The last major contributing factor is tire availability. With 18" wheels, there is an overwhelming amount of support from tire manufactures, and for many years this diameter (and smaller) was the primary focus for manufacturers offering track and race compounds. As the industry shifts to larger brake setups and in turn larger diameter wheels, tire manufacturers are slowly expanding their 19"+ offerings. At the end of the day, you can have the perfect wheel specifications, but they are of no value to you if there aren't tires to choose from. Tire availability or lack thereof in your desired compound may influence your decision you to run a square or staggered configuration. The good news is that we are offering both solutions.

We took the liberty of listing tire options in each of the respective configurations with an emphasis on performance street tires, r-compounds, semi slicks, and racing slicks. We are really hoping more extreme summer and r-compounds become available in the appropriate 19" sizes. If we missed anything, just let us know and we will edit the list.

Tire Availability - Staggered Configurations

APEX Staff Picks are noted with blue text. These are our favorite options in certain critical categories and fitments.

F: 255/35-19 / R: 275/35-19

Performance Street
Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, Yokohama Advan Apex V601, Continental Extremecontact Sport, Hankook V12 Evo2

Extreme Summer
Yokohama AD08R

Streetable Track and Competition
Michelin Cup 2

F: 265/30-19 / R: 285/30-19

Performance Street
Hankook Ventus V12 Evo2, Kumho Ecsta PS91, Firestone Firehawk Indy 500

Extreme Summer
None available

Streetable Track and Competition
None available

F: 265/30-19 / R: 295/30-19

Performance Street
Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, Hankook Ventus V12 Evo2, Kumho Ecsta PS91

Extreme Summer
None available

Streetable Track and Competition
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R , Toyo R888R

F: 275/30-19 / R: 295/30-19

Performance Street
Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, Hankook Ventus V12 Evo2, Kumho Ecsta PS91

Extreme Summer
None available

Streetable Track and Competition
None available

F: 275/30-19 / R: 305/30-19

Performance Street
Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, Continental Extremecontact Sport, Hankook Ventus V12 Evo2, Kumho Ecsta PS91

Extreme Summer
None available

Streetable Track and Competition
None available

Tire Availability - Rotatable Square Configurations

F&R: 265/30-19

Performance Street
Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, Hankook Ventus V12 Evo2, Kumho Ecsta PS91

Extreme Summer
None available

Streetable Track & Competition
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R, Toyo R888R

F&R: 275/30-19

Performance Street
Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, Continental Extremecontact Sport, Hankook Ventus V12 Evo2, Kumho Ecsta PS91, Firestone Firehawk Indy 500, Dunlop Direzza DZ102

Extreme Summer
Nitto NT05

Streetable Track & Competition
None available

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► 4/25/19 MAJOR THREAD UPDATE



This week we received our first official set of sample wheels for the M2 Competition Group Buy. We have been incredibly excited to finally have the chance to show these stunning EC-7 wheels off to the community, and today we are delighted to present some of the outstanding edits from our latest photo shoot.

Our goal heading into the testing phase for the M2 Competition was to validate our fitment and to determine if negative camber would be necessary when using a very aggressive tire compound. This test car features our new 19x9.5” ET28 and 19x10.5” ET45 EC-7 wheels, paired with 265/30-19 and 295/30-19 Toyo R888R tires.

In this write-up, we will take you through our testing process, giving you a behind the scenes glimpse into what it takes to bring these purpose-built wheels to production. We are thrilled at the way these new M2 Competition specific wheels turned out, and look forward to seeing them in the wild in the foreseeable future.

M2 Competition Stock Wheels:

The M2 Competition was released with the 19” 788M wheels in the following fitment:

Front: 19x9” ET29
Rear: 19x10” ET40

Though this fitment is a great improvement over a standard 2 series, they are not designed to maximum the potential tires that can be used on this car, leading to better performance. With the massive torque of the new S55 engine, wider tires are needed to properly put that power to the ground. The stock 19x9” and 19x10” wheels are not wide enough to properly support the sidewalls of the 265/30-19 and 295/30-19 tires, which are our recommended tire sizes for this chassis.













M2 Competition Stock Brake Clearance:

The release of the M2 Competition brought many improvements over the standard M2, including new brakes. BMW released the M2C with the new monstrous 2NH 400mm front/380mm rear factory big brake setup, making it impossible to use 18” wheels.

When reviewing the stock 788M 19” wheels, we found that even though they do clear the brakes, clearances do appear to be quite tight. The F8X M3/M4 with the carbon ceramic brakes did have a similar issue, and some customers did experience small debris or a larger rock becoming lodged between the caliper and the wheel. Our goal with the 19” EC-7 wheels was to improve this brake clearance.







APEX 19” EC-7 M2 Fitment:

Our new 19” EC-7 wheels feature the following fitment for the M2 and M2 Competition:

Front: 19x9.5” ET28
Rear: 19x10.5” ET45

Our original plan was to mimic our current 18” FL-5 fitments for the M2; 9.5” ET28 & 10.5” ET40. However, after further research and feedback from the community, we ultimately decided to change the rear offset to ET45. This small change moved the rear wheels inboard by 5mm, still allowing proper inner clearance while accommodating aggressive 295 rear tires without the need to modify the car. The end result is a fantastic fitment, specifically tailored to run 265/30-19 and 295/30-19 tires.

Since 18" wheels cannot be used on the M2C, we knew track enthusiasts would be on the hunt for 19" wheels that could stand up to repetitive track abuse and accommodate wider r-compounds, semi-slicks, and slicks. With that in mind, we chose to conduct our test fitment with Toyo R888R tires.

Up front, the 19x9.5” ET28 paired with 265/30-19 R888R sits perfectly flush with the fenders without poking. At stock ride height and alignment settings we did not experience any rubbing, however, dialing in negative camber is vital for track enthusiasts to optimize performance and tire longevity, and it would further decrease the chances of rubbing under heavy suspension compression. Street tires like the Michelin PS4S do not run nearly as wide and would have even more clearance.

Overall, this staggered fitment is a great solution for M2C owners looking to maximize performance, while having a spacerless fitment that sits flush in relation to the fenders.























APEX 19” EC-7 M2 Brake Clearance:

The EC-7 wheels has been known to provide some of the best brake clearance in the industry, with our 18” wheels clearing even the massive Brembo 380mm BBK. This brake clearance extends to our 19” wheels, which clear the new 2NH brakes on the M2 Competition even better than the stock 788M wheels.

As you can see in our testing, the 19” EC-7’s provide ample brake clearance both in regards to the spokes and the barrel. By further improving this clearance over the stock wheels, you can mitigate the risk of debris or rocks damaging your calipers or your wheels.



















Exterior Shots:

We love the way our Race Silver EC-7 wheels complemented the Long Beach Blue paint on this new M2 Competition. Let us know what you think of the new 19” EC-7 M2C specific fitments:




























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Well I am sold, I pledged in for the group buy for my M2C satin black with 275/30F and 295/30R Michelin PS 4S, bolts, caps, TPMS, etc. Question will apex go ahead and mount/balance all of this, I didn't see an option for it but didn't want to assume they would do that either.
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Well I am sold, I pledged in for the group buy for my M2C satin black with 275/30F and 295/30R Michelin PS 4S, bolts, caps, TPMS, etc. Question will apex go ahead and mount/balance all of this, I didn't see an option for it but didn't want to assume they would do that either.
Where's this group buy?
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Check the link at the bottom of the picture above.
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Apex wheels are best bang for buck. I prefer anthracite ARC-8s but those EC7s look really nice
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These looks fantastic, so clean compared to OEM 19s.

Would love to see some fitted Anthracite pics once available. Subb'ing to this thread
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These are links to a wheel/tire size calculator. I've plugged in the 265/30, 295/30 combo. The wheel/tire circumference is almost the same as stock. The scrub radius is also very close to stock. I don't know the original fender clearance specs so that spec is likely wrong.

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https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?whe...cl=30mm&sr=0mm

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It's a shame that Michelin doesn't make a PS4S in 285/30/19. Then stock wheel m2 owners could run 255/35/19 front and 285/30/19 rear. I compromised and run 255/35 and 275/35 PS4S.

Nice job by Apex on this release.
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Will apex be offering wheel and tire mounted packages with r compound tires?
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Fantastic post. Are these cast or forged?
They seem too heavy to be forged, probably flow formed. If they are flow formed would be nice to know how the face is cast... gravity, low pressure or tilt cast.
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Judging by the price I would guess there is zero chance that they are forged.
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I, and many other Spec E46 racers, have run Apex wheels for years. They durable and cost effective. The only time I've managed to bend a wheel was when I cut a corner too much (turn 10 at VIR) and went into a pothole and bashed the backside of the curbing. I'd expect any wheel to take damage in that scenario. I didn't even feel that bad about it since I was replacing a non-forged wheel that wasn't ridiculously expensive.

I'd definitely recommend Apex wheels. If they can handle years of wheel to wheel racing and frequent mounting of race rubber, they will be fine for a street/track car.
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I do not see the PSC2 as an option, only the 4S in 265 front / 295 rear. Comes out to be about $2900 with the staggered 4S.
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I'd love to see the black/anthracite wheels as well on BSM.
Appreciate your interest. We have an M2 flickr album and an M2 showroom gallery thread here on bimmerpost, however most existing EC-7 configurations will be in 18".

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Fantastic post. Are these cast or forged?
These EC-7's are flow formed just like the existing line of 18" and 19" BMW wheels.

Some of you may have seen our teaser video indicating that we are releasing forged wheels this year, however, it will take some time before we are able to release all the different BMW fitment iterations we have planned.

Over the last 10+ years, our flow formed line has proven to be a great solution for performance driving enthusiasts, and we believe they present tremendous value. Once our forged program is fully up and running, enthusiasts will have the ability to choose between flow formed or forged depending on their needs, preferences and budget.


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Well I am sold, I pledged in for the group buy for my M2C satin black with 275/30F and 295/30R Michelin PS 4S, bolts, caps, TPMS, etc. Question will apex go ahead and mount/balance all of this, I didn't see an option for it but didn't want to assume they would do that either.
Great to have you onboard! All wheel and tire packages include free mounting and road force balancing

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Where's this group buy?
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These are links to a wheel/tire size calculator. I've plugged in the 265/30, 295/30 combo. The wheel/tire circumference is almost the same as stock. The scrub radius is also very close to stock. I don't know the original fender clearance specs so that spec is likely wrong.

Front:
https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?whe...cl=30mm&sr=0mm

Rear:
https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?whe...cl=30mm&sr=0mm
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It's a shame that Michelin doesn't make a PS4S in 285/30/19. Then stock wheel m2 owners could run 255/35/19 front and 285/30/19 rear. I compromised and run 255/35 and 275/35 PS4S.

Nice job by Apex on this release.
Great additional info, thank you guys for chiming in. We hope that Michelin continues to expand the PS4S line, but the good news is that there are already some solid options. The real void is in the extreme summer and semi-slick / slick categories.

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Will apex be offering wheel and tire mounted packages with r compound tires?
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I do not see the PSC2 as an option, only the 4S in 265 front / 295 rear. Comes out to be about $2900 with the staggered 4S.
We are working hard to add the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2's to our tire offering. We'll keep everyone posted on that front.

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These looks fantastic, so clean compared to OEM 19s.

Would love to see some fitted Anthracite pics once available. Subb'ing to this thread
Thank you. We look forward to getting wheels into everyone hands. As noted above, a vast majority of M2's equipped with APEX wheels in the wild are running 18's (and rightfully so). Can't wait for the community to share photos of the 19's.

Here is a beautiful shot of 18" EC-7's in Anthracite




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I, and many other Spec E46 racers, have run Apex wheels for years. They durable and cost effective. The only time I've managed to bend a wheel was when I cut a corner too much (turn 10 at VIR) and went into a pothole and bashed the backside of the curbing. I'd expect any wheel to take damage in that scenario. I didn't even feel that bad about it since I was replacing a non-forged wheel that wasn't ridiculously expensive.

I'd definitely recommend Apex wheels. If they can handle years of wheel to wheel racing and frequent mounting of race rubber, they will be fine for a street/track car.
Always great to hear from enthusiasts like yourself that have put our wheels through the ringer as intended. Thank you for the kind words, we appreciate your support.




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Any recommendations for a 19" staggered fitment with RE-71R tires?
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Apex wheels quickly became my favorite too when I started tracking my M4. I used to run satin black EC-7 18x10" and 18x11" staggered setup on the M4 and now I'm running satun black EC-7 18x9.5" square setup with 275/35/18 NT01s on the M2C. I'm pretty happy with the setup so far
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Upgrading to the AP Pro500R brakes is a fantastic way to step down to 18" wheels

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Any recommendations for a 19" staggered fitment with RE-71R tires?
The applicable RE-71R sizes would be 255/35-19 front / 275/35-19 rear, which are also a common tire upgrade for M2 enthusiasts running the stock wheels. Although these tire sizes on paper are a little slimmer than we would like for our M2 specific 9.5"/10.5" wheels, the fact is the RE-71R's run wider than most street tires, so they would actually mate up to our M2 specific wheels quite well. The wider wheel is only going to support the sidewalls that much better.

F: EC-7 19x9.5" ET28 - 255/35-19 RE-71R
R: EC-7 19x10.5" ET40 - 275/35-19 RE-71R

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These are links to a wheel/tire size calculator. I've plugged in the 265/30, 295/30 combo. The wheel/tire circumference is almost the same as stock. The scrub radius is also very close to stock. I don't know the original fender clearance specs so that spec is likely wrong.

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https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?whe...cl=30mm&sr=0mm

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https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?whe...cl=30mm&sr=0mm
This is fantastic--thanks! I've used the miata.net tire size calculator for years to compare overall tire diameters, and various wheel offset calculators, but this is the first time I've seen it all combined in one calculator. Perfect!

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I, and many other Spec E46 racers, have run Apex wheels for years. They durable and cost effective. The only time I've managed to bend a wheel was when I cut a corner too much (turn 10 at VIR) and went into a pothole and bashed the backside of the curbing. I'd expect any wheel to take damage in that scenario. I didn't even feel that bad about it since I was replacing a non-forged wheel that wasn't ridiculously expensive.

I'd definitely recommend Apex wheels. If they can handle years of wheel to wheel racing and frequent mounting of race rubber, they will be fine for a street/track car.
Great endorsement. I saw them frequently at track events when I had my E90 M3.

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Here is a beautiful shot of 18" EC-7's in Anthracite



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Apex wheels quickly became my favorite too when I started tracking my M4. I used to run satin black EC-7 18x10" and 18x11" staggered setup on the M4 and now I'm running satun black EC-7 18x9.5" square setup with 275/35/18 NT01s on the M2C. I'm pretty happy with the setup so far
These shots of EC-7s in 18" fitments (the blue M2 posted by Ryan and the silver posted by cntzl) look a bit different compared to the pics in the initial post above. Which face profile are these? The 18" wheels look like they may be the shallower face profile 1 or 2 compared to what I assume is the deeper profile 3 featured in the first APEX post of this thread... Can Ryan confirm?
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I asked this on Instagram but never got an answer, maybe you guys will answer here.

What are the sizes including offset you are recommending on these?

Also, more importantly, what is the total weight of this set?

I started doing the math based on the specs used on the Black M2C and the total weight was almost comparable to the stock wheels which are pretty heavy.

I would like to see you guys do ARC8 in M2C fitment since those wheels are lighter than the EC7.

I compared the ARC8 weight (in same sizes) to the EC7 and the whole set was much lighter, almost same weight as the 763M.

Is it that the ARC8 design DOES NOT clear the brakes even in 19" with the recommended offsets you are saying for the EC7?
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