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      04-11-2017, 04:08 PM   #45
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Also just checking stock the car falls under B Street right?
Yep, stock car definitely falls under B Street. Should be a contender, save FRC C5.
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Anyone know what the street prepared SCCA class is for the M2, is it BSP?
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My first autocross in the M2, on a very wet day. I wasn't quite brave enough to turn off all the "nannies". So I ran the baby on Sports only.

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Anyone know what the street prepared SCCA class is for the M2, is it BSP?
Not classified yet as far as I know. I'd guess it may actually end up in ASP. Probably worth a letter to the SEB.
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Not classified yet as far as I know. I'd guess it may actually end up in ASP. Probably worth a letter to the SEB.
The M2 is B-street right? What is the path for b-street to ST to SP to Prepared to Modified?
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The M2 is B-street right? What is the path for b-street to ST to SP to Prepared to Modified?
B-street is correct.

For ST, the M2 should go into STU as part of the "catch-all" provision of that class, but per the classing rules would be ineligible for National Tours or Championships:
Sedans & Coupes NOC (nonsports-car-based; 4-seat
minimum; over 5.1L normally aspirated or 2.0L to 3.1L
forced induction)
Most pertinent restriction in STU is max 11" wide wheel and 285-section tires.


As for SP, the M2 is not specifically classed yet that I've seen (not in the 2017 rulebook and not in any Fastracks this year AFAIK). SSP has a catch-all rule for "sports cars over 2.0L not otherwise classified", but I don't think the M2 would fit with the rulebook definition of "sports car." Again, a letter to the SEB would be appropriate to clarify. Since the M235i is specifically classed in ASP, I very much doubt that the M2 would end up anywhere south of that. Keep in mind that the current-gen M3/4 are not specifically classed in SP right now either.

Classing in Street Modified (SM) is clearly OK.

The regular Prepared and Modified classes are a whole 'nother thing entirely. I won't even begin to talk about those. That's just crazy
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Any thoughts on the ZL9 M2 classing? I'm considering using the car for the upcoming ProSolo. Emailed the SEB about a month ago and still haven't heard back.
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Any thoughts on the ZL9 M2 classing? I'm considering using the car for the upcoming ProSolo. Emailed the SEB about a month ago and still haven't heard back.
Don't hold your breath waiting for it to be classed, or classed competitively. The SEB is understandably extremely cautious/conservative about the classing of limited-production cars, especially when they have differences that could translate into a significant performance advantage. The biggest thing I'm aware of with the ZL9 that would lead them to be very conservative is the inclusion of the adjustable coilover setup.

Until it's officially classed you're in SS, and I somewhat expect it will either not get specifically classed at all, or get left in SS for good to bury it.
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Don't hold your breath waiting for it to be classed, or classed competitively. The SEB is understandably extremely cautious/conservative about the classing of limited-production cars, especially when they have differences that could translate into a significant performance advantage. The biggest thing I'm aware of with the ZL9 that would lead them to be very conservative is the inclusion of the adjustable coilover setup.

Until it's officially classed you're in SS, and I somewhat expect it will either not get specifically classed at all, or get left in SS for good to bury it.
Thanks for the info. I definitely did not realize the catch-all was SS, so I will plan to go ahead and stay in my FS E46 for the upcoming 5/20 ProSolo. I will see what they say in the next fast track and report back.

Big shame as driving the M2 was fairly interesting at the last local event.
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Just to give an update as I've been waiting:

If anyone with a ZL9 is looking to use their car, the SEB has decided to place it in AS.
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What MPH does 2nd gear runs to ? 6 speed and DCT. Thanks
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Hi folks, new M2 owner here. Bought the M Performance suspension with the car, and about to have it installed. Car is going to be run in BS with the SCCA. I need some help with understanding limits of rule set in Street. This thread seemed like a good place to ask, but if not I'll happily start my own thread.

Am I correct in saying that I may use the M Performance adjustable shocks, but must also use the original springs that came with the car to be BS legal? I want to be ruie-compliant and not open to a protest as I plan to run on the Champ Tour this year and head to Lincoln with the car next year.

Thanks in advance for any input.

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Hi folks, new M2 owner here. Bought the M Performance suspension with the car, and about to have it installed. Car is going to be run in BS with the SCCA. I need some help with understanding limits of rule set in Street. This thread seemed like a good place to ask, but if not I'll happily start my own thread.

Am I correct in saying that I may use the M Performance adjustable shocks, but must also use the original springs that came with the car to be BS legal? I want to be ruie-compliant and not open to a protest as I plan to run on the Champ Tour this year and head to Lincoln with the car next year.

Thanks in advance for any input.

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The suspension will bump you out of BS..

The M2 is BS if completely stock.. I was moved to STU just by having Eibach springs in my first event.
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Hi folks, new M2 owner here. Bought the M Performance suspension with the car, and about to have it installed. Car is going to be run in BS with the SCCA. I need some help with understanding limits of rule set in Street. This thread seemed like a good place to ask, but if not I'll happily start my own thread.

Am I correct in saying that I may use the M Performance adjustable shocks, but must also use the original springs that came with the car to be BS legal? I want to be ruie-compliant and not open to a protest as I plan to run on the Champ Tour this year and head to Lincoln with the car next year.

Thanks in advance for any input.

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The suspension will bump you out of BS..

The M2 is BS if completely stock.. I was moved to STU just by having Eibach springs in my first event.
Where are the coilovers on the M2 Performance Edition installed? At the factory, or the port? If factory, they'd be legal for all M2s in street class, yes? It would be just like the FRS TRD and the JCW Minis?
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Hi folks, new M2 owner here. Bought the M Performance suspension with the car, and about to have it installed. Car is going to be run in BS with the SCCA. I need some help with understanding limits of rule set in Street. This thread seemed like a good place to ask, but if not I'll happily start my own thread.

Am I correct in saying that I may use the M Performance adjustable shocks, but must also use the original springs that came with the car to be BS legal? I want to be ruie-compliant and not open to a protest as I plan to run on the Champ Tour this year and head to Lincoln with the car next year.

Thanks in advance for any input.

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The suspension will bump you out of BS..

The M2 is BS if completely stock.. I was moved to STU just by having Eibach springs in my first event.
Where are the coilovers on the M2 Performance Edition installed? At the factory, or the port? If factory, they'd be legal for all M2s in street class, yes? It would be just like the FRS TRD and the JCW Minis?
Port.. thats why any suspension mod throws you off BS.
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Where are the coilovers on the M2 Performance Edition installed? At the factory, or the port? If factory, they'd be legal for all M2s in street class, yes? It would be just like the FRS TRD and the JCW Minis?
If you read the last few pages of the thread, I've done research for everyone and found the SEB classified the PE in AS.
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Where are the coilovers on the M2 Performance Edition installed? At the factory, or the port? If factory, they'd be legal for all M2s in street class, yes? It would be just like the FRS TRD and the JCW Minis?
If you read the last few pages of the thread, I've done research for everyone and found the SEB classified the PE in AS.
Thanks. So just to be clear then, it's in BS straight from the factory, and in AS when equipped with Performance Edition upgrades such as the M Performance coilovers?
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Thanks. So just to be clear then, it's in BS straight from the factory, and in AS when equipped with Performance Edition upgrades such as the M Performance coilovers?
By the letter of the rules only a "complete" ZL9-package car would classify for AS. If you just take a regular M2 and put on the MP coilovers you'd got to STU.

To put a regular M2 into AS you would need to do a complete package conversion, with exceptions for "comfort and convenience" items. I'm not sure why you'd want to do that though...
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What class is the M2 with performance modifications such as tune, IC, Catless DP, etc.? I realize these mods will actually hurt my classing for autocross but I'm only looking to have fun.
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Did my first autocross event this past Sunday. I'm on continentals so curious how much of a difference that makes. I'm also coming from a modified Evo with about the same power as a stock M2 but running E85.

My times were terrible, most of that is due to driver. I haven't autocrossed in about 6 months and am used to a point and shoot driving with an Evo. The car felt like it rotated well. I ran in Sport + but I felt like a lot of times the power was not going to the wheels. Is this the DCT trying to keep the wheels from spinning. There was a fast ending where once I straighten out I was flatout and it felt torqueless.
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Did my first autocross event this past Sunday. I'm on continentals so curious how much of a difference that makes. I'm also coming from a modified Evo with about the same power as a stock M2 but running E85.

My times were terrible, most of that is due to driver. I haven't autocrossed in about 6 months and am used to a point and shoot driving with an Evo. The car felt like it rotated well. I ran in Sport + but I felt like a lot of times the power was not going to the wheels. Is this the DCT trying to keep the wheels from spinning. There was a fast ending where once I straighten out I was flatout and it felt torqueless.
The car is capable. The Continentals aren't that nice. I would attribute most of its potential to the size and great suspension design. It's really quick on its feet and feels like a go-kart. The steering doesn't have much feel or communication, the Conti's don't help, and it does feel a bit gutless to me - but I think you can really keep a faster pace than you'd expect throughout the course. It rotates very nicely and you can carry a lot more into corners because the brakes are sweet and mid-corner grip is high.

I'm coming from a piggy FS E46 M3 so take my feedback with that in mind.

I was able to blast away all of BS at a local SCCA event in a PE on the Conti's (few Focus RS on RE71R). This is before the SEB said the PE should go to AS. I would expect at least 1.5+ seconds with proper tires over the Conti's, and will report back once I can get some 18" wheels with RE71R or Rivals.
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