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      03-27-2019, 01:55 PM   #1
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ED Trip: Nurburgring or Stelvio Pass

I've been planning my ED trip and I realized that I don't think I can do both Nurburgring and Stelvio Pass in a week w/o burning myself out in driving the distance between. Anybody have any thoughts on whether to go to Stelvio Pass or Nurburgring as a first time EDer?

I figured I'll just do one of them and take back roads to get the fun out of break in mode and even at the Nurburgring I'll just be that slow guy cruising along the right side...
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IMO, you can't go wrong with either. One gets you an amazing road and scenery, the other gets you a legendary race track.

I did the Susten Pass as the Stelvio was too far from where we were. It was amazing. I hear the Furka pass is great too.
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I'd submit that you might not actually want to do the Stelvio Pass, and instead choose one of the many other less-famous - but still as twisty (and less busy) other passes.

For examples:
- San Bernardino pass
- Splugenpass
- Malojapass
- Sustenpass
- Grimselpass

Now the Stelvio is famous, I'll give you that. So maybe your interest is more about the celebrity aspect. In which case, well, I guess you'll just have to do the Stelvio. Please also note that (IMO) the more famous north approach to the Stelvio is narrow and "kinky" -- meaning that it is hard to really charge hard on it and have fun. Many of the other passes above have better quality twisties, IMO.

Also don't pass up the Nordschliefe - that is also very worth it.

I've got a lot of very detailed info on quite a few of the above, as well as Nurburgring experiences in my own European Delivery report:

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I did both Stelvio and the Ring last October.

Nurburgring all day long if I had to choose between them.

High passes were great but Stelvio was little overrated IMO. It gets boring doing those S turns after a while.

But on the Nurburgring nothing was boring. Hanging out at the Ring, talking to fellow EDers, talking to fellow motorsport enthusisats that drove from all over Europe to be at the Ring. Nothing beats the Ring experience, nothing! I would pick the Ring over any mountain pass. My heart was beating from start to finish on the Ring. You do not get this feeling on the high alpine passes.

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Definitely Nurburgring over alpine passes
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Some excellent Not-Stelvio passes:

Malojapass:


Splugenpass:


But yes, agree with others... the Nordschleife is not to be missed:
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Thanks guys! I guess I'll go north west to Nurburgring then. Stelvio (or realistically, one of those other amazing pass) can wait for another ED!
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You can change your drop-off point if that makes coordinating your itinerary any easier.
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Thanks guys! I guess I'll go north west to Nurburgring then. Stelvio (or realistically, one of those other amazing pass) can wait for another ED!
I did my EUD last month and I'm pretty sure I saw something that stated the Alianz insurance was void if I brought the car on the Nurburgring.

Just letting you know
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I did almost all of the above choices last summer. I would rank Nurburgring over Stelvio especially if coming from the north. I would also recommend any of the Swiss alpine passes over Stelvio just for ease of driving (less narrow) and the ability to do 3 or 4 in a row, only thing is the required Swiss vignette. As far as the insurance...drive on the right and don't be stupid. I reached higher speeds on the autobahn and didn't have the wife telling me to let her out...
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I would pick the Alps over the ring, but then again I live 40 mins away from the ring so I'm a bit spoiled. The Alps are beautiful and you can't beat driving awesome mountain roads.
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I did my EUD last month and I'm pretty sure I saw something that stated the Alianz insurance was void if I brought the car on the Nurburgring.

Just letting you know
Yep Ring is not covered so go at your own risk. When I went in 2015 it was still covered but then they switched insurers and it wasn't. BMW has switched back to Alianz at the beginning of 2019 (I did ED in Jan) but it's still on the exclusion list.

That being said, if you go on a public driving day and drive 6-7/10ths and stay out of the way of faster cars you shouldn't have a problem.
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Yup. I plan on a leisurely drive and staying under 5k anyway. It's more of an adventure anyway as gf will also be in the car.

I leave all of the 10/10 driving in my miata
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Yup. I plan on a leisurely drive and staying under 5k anyway. It's more of an adventure anyway as gf will also be in the car.

I leave all of the 10/10 driving in my miata
Just be careful as there are a lot of blind corners and crests on the track that can catch you out. The track looks WAY different in real life than in video games.

Go to Spa while you're in that area, that track is amazing. Hands down my favorite track ever and very easy to learn on a first trip, the sight lines into and out of corners are great.
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