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      02-03-2020, 11:47 AM   #1
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Hi all,

I'm posting this letter on behalf of someone from a FB M2 group and doesn't have a Bimmerpost account.

This definitely explains why there's no dyno sheets for this tune one of the main points of the tune is to have a matching warranty


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      02-03-2020, 12:11 PM   #2
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New account from me... But I've been lurking around and this to me, just looks like ANOTHER caveat....
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      02-03-2020, 12:12 PM   #3
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Hi all,

I'm posting this letter on behalf of someone from a FB M2 group and doesn't have a Bimmerpost account.

This definitely explains why there's no dyno sheets for this tune one of the main points of the tune is to have a matching warranty


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I'm not really sure how this addresses their own lack of dyno results. This states that some dynos don't accurately reflect real world performance, and they admit it is not all. This is a caution (warning) not to use a dyno, not a defense as to why they haven't published numbers.
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      02-03-2020, 12:15 PM   #4
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Hi all,

I'm posting this letter on behalf of someone from a FB M2 group and doesn't have a Bimmerpost account.

This definitely explains why there's no dyno sheets for this tune one of the main points of the tune is to have a matching warranty


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I'm not really sure how this addresses their own lack of dyno results. This states that some dynos don't accurately reflect real world performance, and they admit it is not all. This is a caution (warning) not to use a dyno, not a defense as to why they haven't published numbers.
Agreed on all you said but want to add that they say it voids the warranty from them. Basically it's incentivizes the average person to never publish any real world results. Seems shady in my opinion.
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So let me get this right. They want us to take their word for it using their MS Paint dyno sheet?
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      02-03-2020, 12:27 PM   #6
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So let me get this right. They want us to take their word for it using their MS Paint dyno sheet?
Correct.
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My head just exploded reading this.

My read is: "If you dyno to confirm our gains, you void your warranty."

Circular logic, much?

So here's a question: In Colorado, you have to get emissions tested every couple of years-- which is done on a DYNO-- with a big fan in front.

Does that void my warranty?

Noelle keeps getting shadier and shadier. Maybe that's not their intention but, "Law of Unintended Consequences" and all that.

I'll be looking for a tune after I get Delivery and through the 1200. Noelle has been scratched off the list so hard I've left marks on the table beneath my laptop!

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This letter made my Monday, bravo!
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Dyno insurance? Is that sold at the same place as headlight fluid?
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Dyno insurance? Is that sold at the same place as headlight fluid?
Imagine the shop owners face as you describe how you need dyno insurance to keep your warranty. 10/10 chance they will think the car is broken and you're just waiting for it to blow on the dyno, hence the insurance. Never gonna work.
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Dyno insurance? Is that sold at the same place as headlight fluid?
Idk about everyone else but I make sure to top off my blinker fluid every 5k miles. Better to be safe than to be another BMW driver who doesn't use their indicators!
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You've got to be fuckin kidding me.. Just when you think it cant get any more scammy... this pops up.
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Idk about everyone else but I make sure to top off my blinker fluid every 5k miles. Better to be safe than to be another BMW driver who doesn't use their indicators!
I thought that's WHY most BMW owners don't use their signals, they ran out of fluid...?
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Idk about everyone else but I make sure to top off my blinker fluid every 5k miles. Better to be safe than to be another BMW driver who doesn't use their indicators!
I thought that's WHY most BMW owners don't use their signals, they ran out of fluid...?
Legend has it, some BMW owners do use their turn signals.


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I called this stuff months ago when they first started popping up here. Their selling point is you get a warranty, but their terms of service lists a million things that void the warranty.
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Dyno insurance? Is that sold at the same place as headlight fluid?
The guy that sold me elbow grease said he could also get these items.
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Another mysterious Noelle thread? Deary me.

Translation: Don't you dare dyno our tune or your shit could blow, and we will not warranty!

Amazing no other tuner has such a concern...
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Dyno insurance? Is that sold at the same place as headlight fluid?
you can also pick up a can of compression and some piston return springs.
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you can also pick up a can of compression and some piston return springs.
compressed air can check....where do i find piston return rings??

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you can also pick up a can of compression and some piston return springs.
compressed air can check....where do i find piston return rings??

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Wow, warranty void if ran on the dyno...madness.

I agree on proper airflow required and many dyno facilities aren't adequate however if the ecu protections are still as factory then the air temp correction will reduce power as it should.

What a crock. Time to race one of these.
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