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      02-23-2020, 02:41 PM   #837
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      02-23-2020, 03:10 PM   #838
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i don't know why people are waiting for the unlock when every shop can do a bench flash and get the tune. i did mine back in october
If by that, you mean they remove the ECU, ship it off, and then put it back in when they get it back, you're correct.

There are very few shops I would trust to take apart my car. And even if "any shop" can do it, fuck 99% of shops out there.

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      02-24-2020, 05:11 PM   #839
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Something interesting I was told by carbahn tune shop as they bench flash and use their tune. Was looking at there options but told them I was looking for an E85 tune. They said they don't because using e85 eats up engine parts (cylinder heads, engine hardware etc) and they have been replacing whole engines. Is there any truth to this?? Aside from changing our spark plugs I was under the impression we are good to go on the s55. Anyone running e85 feel free to chime in
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      02-24-2020, 06:21 PM   #840
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Something interesting I was told by carbahn tune shop as they bench flash and use their tune. Was looking at there options but told them I was looking for an E85 tune. They said they don't because using e85 eats up engine parts (cylinder heads, engine hardware etc) and they have been replacing whole engines. Is there any truth to this?? Aside from changing our spark plugs I was under the impression we are good to go on the s55. Anyone running e85 feel free to chime in
Some components in older generation vehicles weren't made to handle E85, this is not the case with the latest generation vehicles. I've also never heard of cylinder heads and engine hardware getting eaten up. I'm happily running E85 in both my M's.
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Some components in older generation vehicles weren't made to handle E85, this is not the case with the latest generation vehicles. I've also never heard of cylinder heads and engine hardware getting eaten up. I'm happily running E85 in both my M's.
Yeah I think it was more of a sales pitch to wing me off the idea of going with a custom e85 bm3 tune. In reality I really went in there only to see if they can unlock my DME lol. They gave me some bullshit story on how they can only unlock it using their tune 😂🤣
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      02-25-2020, 11:15 AM   #842
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Some components in older generation vehicles weren't made to handle E85, this is not the case with the latest generation vehicles. I've also never heard of cylinder heads and engine hardware getting eaten up. I'm happily running E85 in both my M's.
Im running 100% E85 with bootmod3 and I'm loving it
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      02-26-2020, 01:14 AM   #843
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i don't know why people are waiting for the unlock when every shop can do a bench flash and get the tune. i did mine back in october
If by that, you mean they remove the ECU, ship it off, and then put it back in when they get it back, you're correct.

There are very few shops I would trust to take apart my car. And even if "any shop" can do it, fuck 99% of shops out there.
There is no need to remove the ecu for a tune. It takes 10-15 minutes to move the intercooler and disconnect the ecu's connectors
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i don't know why people are waiting for the unlock when every shop can do a bench flash and get the tune. i did mine back in october
If by that, you mean they remove the ECU, ship it off, and then put it back in when they get it back, you're correct.

There are very few shops I would trust to take apart my car. And even if "any shop" can do it, fuck 99% of shops out there.
There is no need to remove the ecu for a tune. It takes 10-15 minutes to move the intercooler and disconnect the ecu's connectors
so what, you're going to just ship your entire intake manifold off? whatever floats your boat.
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      02-26-2020, 11:52 PM   #846
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Lol.. yes I laughed, I cannot lie at msdss comment.

But come on you know what he means. Some shops have the provision with a breakout harness to plug directly into the dme so it does not need to be removed. Just need the access.

Of course if the shop does not have the means then shipping is the only option for the interim (with or without the intake manifold)
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still no updates folks?
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      03-10-2020, 06:07 PM   #848
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still no updates folks?
I commented on Facebook that they never give updates and they deleted it.

Soo. I'm going to ecutek. Fuck this.
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      03-10-2020, 06:20 PM   #849
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I don’t think developing a solution is a priority for anyone anymore. The problem is that this engine is basically at the end of its cycle and the new M’s with the new S58 engine are due at the end of year/early next year which probably leads tuning companies to question whether they should invest money into a product that will be discontinued within a year or so.

I hope I’m wrong but my advice is that if you really want a tune, find a local shop that can bench flash the ECU and problem solved. They don’t even need to take the ECU out. In theory, any high performance dyno shop should be able to do it.

It’s not as convenient as flashing a map yourself but it’s all we’re probably going to get, unless we get lucky.

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I donít think developing a solution is a priority for anyone anymore. The problem is that this engine is basically at the end of its cycle and the new Mís with the new S58 engine are due at the end of year/early next year which probably leads tuning companies to question whether they should invest money into a product that will be discontinued within a year or so.

I hope Iím wrong but my advice is that if you really want to tune, find a local shop that can bench flash the ECU and problem solved. They donít even need to take the ECU out. In theory, any high performance dyno shop should be able to do it.

Itís not as convenient as flashing a map yourself but itís all weíre probably going to get, unless we get lucky.

Just my 0.2 cents
There are thousands and thousands of s55s out there. Tuning will be even more popular on the used market I would think.
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      03-10-2020, 06:34 PM   #851
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There are thousands and thousands of s55s out there. Tuning will be even more popular on the used market I would think.
It’s true that there are plenty of S55’s out there but only the newest ones have the locked DME which makes them a minority. So they would need to develop a solution for basically, let’s say, 10% of the total population which can be expensive if they can’t recover the cost because there won’t be that many more sold with the DME locked before BMW stops production and the new M’s go on sale in the near future.

Anyway, I hope I’m wrong. I’d love a bm3 flash as I had it on my 435 before and it was great and crazy easy to flash. Much easier than going to a tuner every time you want to flash to stock and vice versa.

I have a local high performance BMW shop that will give me a tune worth about 60-70whp for about $900. The problem for me is that I much rather have full control over when I flash and how I flash it anytime anywhere.
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Itís true that there are plenty of S55ís out there but only the newest ones have the locked DME which makes them a minority. So they would need to develop a solution for basically, letís say, 10% of the total population which can be expensive if they canít recover the cost because there wonít be that many more sold with the DME locked before BMW stops production and the new Mís go on sale in the near future.

Anyway, I hope Iím wrong. Iíd love a bm3 flash as I had it on my 435 before and it was great and crazy easy to flash. Much easier than going to a tuner every time you want to flash to stock and vice versa.

I have a local high performance BMW shop that will give me a tune worth about 60-70whp for about $900. The problem for me is that I much rather have full control over when I flash and how I flash it anytime anywhere.
Older s55s can and have been locked by dealerships updating their software. But who knows. Hope someone unlocks it.
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still no updates folks?
I commented on Facebook that they never give updates and they deleted it.

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That's a real dick move on their part and is very telling; there's obviously no solution to the OBD2 bootloader lockout issue and doesn't seem to have one anytime soon or else they would been happy to attempt to push a sale.

I'm pretty sure they were not originally active on Facebook simply just for the "likes" but to promote their product.
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I'm not waiting any longer for a OBD II solution. Have an appt next week with Visconti Tuning in Westport, CT to have my DME flashed and ECUTEK installed.
Its a great product and I've used in in the past on other platforms.
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I'm not waiting any longer for a OBD II solution. Have an appt next week with Visconti Tuning in Westport, CT to have my DME flashed and ECUTEK installed.
Its a great product and I've used in in the past on other platforms.
Sweet. I had COBB on my GTR but a lot of people had Visconti ECUTEk and loved it

I wish there was a shop in Houston that could bench flash.
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I'm not waiting any longer for a OBD II solution. Have an appt next week with Visconti Tuning in Westport, CT to have my DME flashed and ECUTEK installed.
Its a great product and I've used in in the past on other platforms.
Are you worried at all about the spun crank hub issue? That’s pretty much what’s keeping me from getting a tune.
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Are you worried at all about the spun crank hub issue? Thatís pretty much whatís keeping me from getting a tune.
The general consensus is that tuned DCT cars are much more likely to spin a crank hub, especially ones that have a very aggressive shifting software installed.
There are tunes available that are the same as BMW. The M4CS tune at 454HP and 442 lb ft torque (actual is probably higher) for example is about the traction limit for a stock M2C IMO. I just think that the issue is overblown...oops poor choice of words 😂
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Are you worried at all about the spun crank hub issue? That’s pretty much what’s keeping me from getting a tune.
The only thing keeping me from getting the tune is the damn software update. Hopefully, we’ll get some good news soon.

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