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      05-14-2018, 06:32 AM   #89
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Stage 2+ OTS results for me here in Australia.
I'm getting timing corrections but unsure if that effects the results... maybe a small amount of E85 may help, not sure.
Yup - timing corrections will definitely effect yr results. DME pulls timing, closes throttle and winds back boost.

10s+ 100-200 reads like you are circa about 1.5s off the pace however m timer could be off. What did your car do 100-200 stock ?

Try cheap stuff 1st ie octane booster or a whiff of ethanol to see if it helps yr stats.
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Stage 2+ OTS results for me here in Australia.
I'm getting timing corrections but unsure if that effects the results... maybe a small amount of E85 may help, not sure.
Yup - timing corrections will definitely effect yr results. DME pulls timing, closes throttle and winds back boost.

10s+ 100-200 reads like you are circa about 1.5s off the pace however m timer could be off. What did your car do 100-200 stock ?

Try cheap stuff 1st ie octane booster or a whiff of ethanol to see if it helps yr stats.
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Stage 2+ OTS results for me here in Australia.
I'm getting timing corrections but unsure if that effects the results... maybe a small amount of E85 may help, not sure.
Boost looks to be following target pretty well but you can see the timing corrections which will effect the run and time like BP says.

Is peak boost on that run 14.5 psi?
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Stage 2+ OTS results for me here in Australia.
I'm getting timing corrections but unsure if that effects the results... maybe a small amount of E85 may help, not sure.
Boost looks to be following target pretty well but you can see the timing corrections which will effect the run and time like BP says.

Is peak boost on that run 14.5 psi?
15.7 was peak on this run... although overboosted a little to 16.5 thus the throttle closure to get under boost... 15psi to redline.
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15.7 was peak on this run... although overboosted a little to 16.5 thus the throttle closure to get under boost... 15psi to redline.
Cool. The mhd maps seem to be a little less aggressive compared to bm3 which seems to hit 17psi on the m2 until redline.

A few of my friends have been running the mhd stage 2+ 102 ots map on our uk 99 ron successfully. They felt a noticeable difference between the 98 and 102. Maybe worth a try for yourself if you are splashing some e85 in there.
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Stage 2+ OTS results for me here in Australia.
I'm getting timing corrections but unsure if that effects the results... maybe a small amount of E85 may help, not sure.
Boost looks to be following target pretty well but you can see the timing corrections which will effect the run and time like BP says.

Is peak boost on that run 14.5 psi?
15.7 was peak on this run... although overboosted a little to 16.5 thus the throttle closure to get under boost... 15psi to redline.
What are the boost levels like and how does timing advance compare to stock ?
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Question! would i have to flash back to stock tune for odb2 emissions testing? or will the odb2 test be able to test the readiness monitors with a tune flashed.

Also with catless Downpipe does the flash autoclear the code or does it place the catalyst monitor as not supported?
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Stage 2 plus 91 octane medium aggressiveness in sport mode street speed.
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Hi guys, just an update...

I'm logging and sending data to MHD for there upcoming update for stage 2+ and can I say really happy/excited with how it's looking.
Car feels really strong with plenty of power on tap and on normal driving it's as smooth as stock. Martial is doing some amazing stuff.. Keep it up!!
A couple of runs and now down to 9.38 on the first and after adjustments the 100-180 come down .3 so if I got to 200, 9 flat would have come about!!
Jump on board and enjoy the ride. Running at 16PSI with additional timing from the current OTS Maps. ( this is not a paid presentation but from an excited enthusiast. )
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Cool. The mhd maps seem to be a little less aggressive compared to bm3 which seems to hit 17psi on the m2 until redline.

A few of my friends have been running the mhd stage 2+ 102 ots map on our uk 99 ron successfully. They felt a noticeable difference between the 98 and 102. Maybe worth a try for yourself if you are splashing some e85 in there.
The new Stage2+ should change that
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Cool. The mhd maps seem to be a little less aggressive compared to bm3 which seems to hit 17psi on the m2 until redline.

A few of my friends have been running the mhd stage 2+ 102 ots map on our uk 99 ron successfully. They felt a noticeable difference between the 98 and 102. Maybe worth a try for yourself if you are splashing some e85 in there.
The new Stage2+ should change that
New? What is the ETA?
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The new Stage2+ should change that
Hopefully.

Iím still waiting out to see what the best solution for me is. MHDís test m135i doing 8.2 100-200 was impressive but I havenít seen anyone replicate that which is dissappointing. Iíd expect the M2 to run quicker too considering it makes slightly more power.

Do you know if MHD have implemented the flash counter freeze and tamper
Code removal yet?
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Hopefully.

Iím still waiting out to see what the best solution for me is. MHDís test m135i doing 8.2 100-200 was impressive but I havenít seen anyone replicate that which is dissappointing. Iíd expect the M2 to run quicker too considering it makes slightly more power.

Do you know if MHD have implemented the flash counter freeze and tamper
Code removal yet?
Flash counter isn't an issue with MHD, as far as I know, not very many tuners freeze the counter. I've flashed countless amount of times and I have 0 issues using both MHD and BM3.

Tamper code removal was implemented early on in beta with MHD.
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Hi Guys

A couple of logs to look at !!!! tomorrow we hope the new update will be released


https://datazap.me/u/mattspies/log-1...-18&zoom=31-99

https://datazap.me/u/mattspies/log-1...8&zoom=165-256

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Hi Guys

A couple of logs to look at !!!! tomorrow we hope the new update will be released


https://datazap.me/u/mattspies/log-1...-18&zoom=31-99

https://datazap.me/u/mattspies/log-1...8&zoom=165-256
What mode do you do the logs in - TC off ?

Given that your load and boost target v actuals look good, timing, WGDC and fuel trim all look stable and you don't get to 90%+ throttle until early 4k rpm's on both logs, it looks to me as if the combo of the fuel and yr car could/should cope with a more aggressive tune.

Hence, I'd be inclined to try 102RON stg 2 /2+ map with the fuel you are using and compare data with your current 98RON stg 2+map datalogs....
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Hi Guys

A couple of logs to look at !!!! tomorrow we hope the new update will be released


https://datazap.me/u/mattspies/log-1...#38;zoom=31-99

https://datazap.me/u/mattspies/log-1...8;zoom=165-256
What mode do you do the logs in - TC off ?

Given that your load and boost target v actuals look good, timing, WGDC and fuel trim all look stable and you don't get to 90%+ throttle until early 4k rpm's on both logs, it looks to me as if the combo of the fuel and yr car could/should cope with a more aggressive tune.

Hence, I'd be inclined to try 102RON stg 2 /2+ map with the fuel you are using and compare data with your current 98RON stg 2+map datalogs....
Remember this will be OTS map.. yeah if I go custom well maybe we can go more aggressive....
Play the conservatory approach, one step at a time
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Remember this will be OTS map.. yeah if I go custom well maybe we can go more aggressive....
Play the conservatory approach, one step at a time
Understood and agreed - proceeding with caution makes perfect sense.

Custom maps are fine but cost $$$ and effectiveness can vary as its dependent on quality of data going into tuner and bespoke map they create - a good example of sh!t in = sh!t out...

FYI - there's F series N55 MHD users here in the UK using 102RON OTS maps w/o issue on 99RON pump fuel. I'd want to explore this option ahead of any custom mapping so as I'd gather more data/info to input to custom mapping tuner....
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What mode do you do the logs in - TC off ?

Given that your load and boost target v actuals look good, timing, WGDC and fuel trim all look stable and you don't get to 90%+ throttle until early 4k rpm's on both logs, it looks to me as if the combo of the fuel and yr car could/should cope with a more aggressive tune.

Hence, I'd be inclined to try 102RON stg 2 /2+ map with the fuel you are using and compare data with your current 98RON stg 2+map datalogs....
you cannot judge by a single log. Look at other logs from Richard and the throttle is 100% open.

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Understood and agreed - proceeding with caution makes perfect sense.

Custom maps are fine but cost $$$ and effectiveness can vary as its dependent on quality of data going into tuner and bespoke map they create - a good example of sh!t in = sh!t out...

FYI - there's F series N55 MHD users here in the UK using 102RON OTS maps w/o issue on 99RON pump fuel. I'd want to explore this option ahead of any custom mapping so as I'd gather more data/info to input to custom mapping tuner....
The new maps 2+ 1.02 are more less conservative and you should run the new 2+ 98ron map on 99ron, not the 102.
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Remember this will be OTS map.. yeah if I go custom well maybe we can go more aggressive....
Play the conservatory approach, one step at a time
Understood and agreed - proceeding with caution makes perfect sense.

Custom maps are fine but cost $$$ and effectiveness can vary as its dependent on quality of data going into tuner and bespoke map they create - a good example of sh!t in = sh!t out...

FYI - there's F series N55 MHD users here in the UK using 102RON OTS maps w/o issue on 99RON pump fuel. I'd want to explore this option ahead of any custom mapping so as I'd gather more data/info to input to custom mapping tuner....
Unfortunately here in Australia it's either 98 pump or E85, which I currently don't want to explore...
honestly I'm currently happy with the setup until M2 competition stock beats my arse
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MHD update 0.994

That's a very significant map update that's delivered today for the 2+ maps.

== M2 stage 2+ maps update 1.02 ==
* More boost before ~5200rpm
* More timing
* Smoother power delivery
* Performance gauges adjusted
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you cannot judge by a single log. Look at other logs from Richard and the throttle is 100% open.
I've looked a few MHD 98 98RON stg2+ logs before I posted my comment - I researched a fair bit before I commented about the consistent low throttle %age at <4.5k rpm.

What, in MHD's view, is the reason behind the variance of throttle position ?

FWIW, IDK who Richard is, sorry. However, if by Richard you mean Tricki then not seen too many other datalogs from him TBH so can't comment.

What I have seen though is a few 100-200 runs and Tricki's car is getting faster but still a tad off the pace of a stg 2 tune c/w a few essential HW upgrades....

Fingers x'd Tricki shares with us more data and timed run with new new MHD 98RON stage 2+ map.
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honestly I'm currently happy with the setup until M2 competition stock beats my arse
Then what will you do ?
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