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      03-02-2020, 08:09 AM   #45
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A couple of the F30 guys and Kies are saying the Turbosmart is giving them better throttle response than DV+, but I donít knowóI havenít had either one:

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1692603
Perhaps it should given it costs 2 x GFB DV+.

At present, I have no reason nor seen any hard facts to warrant the time to switch from GFB DV+ to TS PnP.
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Perhaps it should given it costs 2 x GFB DV+.

At present, I have no reason nor seen any hard facts to warrant the time to switch from GFB DV+ to TS PnP.
Yeah, Iím trying to track down more input, as well, to decide which way Iím going to go.
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A couple of the F30 guys and Kies are saying the Turbosmart is giving them better throttle response than DV+, but I donít knowóI havenít had either one:

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1692603
I only see one person who said it improved response over the DV+ in that thread. Though I'm unclear how that's possible.

Two guys said their GV+ was leaking. One later replied saying it could be an installation error, not putting oil on the seal before installation. He swapped to the TS Dual Port and FTP Inlet Pipe and provided before/after logs. Boost looks exactly the same between logs. I wonder if his DV was ever leaking in the first place, or if he was testing it at too high of a PSI. He says he leak tested at 25psi.

The other came back and said he tested the DV+ and it wasn't leaking, but swapped to the TS product anyway. He's the one who said it felt more responsive.
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I only see one person who said it improved response over the DV+ in that thread. Though I'm unclear how that's possible.

Two guys said their GV+ was leaking. One later replied saying it could be an installation error, not putting oil on the seal before installation. He swapped to the TS Dual Port and FTP Inlet Pipe and provided before/after logs. Boost looks exactly the same between logs. I wonder if his DV was ever leaking in the first place, or if he was testing it at too high of a PSI. He says he leak tested at 25psi.

The other came back and said he tested the DV+ and it wasn't leaking, but swapped to the TS product anyway. He's the one who said it felt more responsive.
Yeah. The Kies guys mentioned they thought it felt better than DV+ towards the end of their video.

Like you guys I wouldnít rip out a DV+ to put this in, but as an initial purchase just trying to decide which way to go.
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Didn't know about throttle reset BP thanks I'll give it a go. Trying to decide if worth getting DV+ installed when I do FBO later, seems stock unit is sturdy enough physically.

Is there any boost overrun per se with the DV+ like an unnatural tendency for car to keep surging forward after hard boost even though throttle has been let off?

For some reason I imagine this to be the case?!
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Didn't know about throttle reset BP thanks I'll give it a go. Trying to decide if worth getting DV+ installed when I do FBO later, seems stock unit is sturdy enough physically.

Is there any boost overrun per se with the DV+ like an unnatural tendency for car to keep surging forward after hard boost even though throttle has been let off?

For some reason I imagine this to be the case?!
Oem may well be sturdy to begin with but the critical oem rubber diaphragm will get weaker with age/cycles etc so DV performance will degrade.

If paying for FBO then adding any DV upgrade is worthwhile IMHO esp as install is way easier whilst you are installing cooler, boost pipes and inlet pipe upgrades.

As said above the decision is GFB DV+ at ~ £100 or TS PnP at ~£200.

My GFB DV+'d car's throttle response is fine or no surging etc on part pedal or overrun
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Just got some great pricing from Mike at XPH on the Turbosmart and Pure inlet pipe.

Will let everyone know how it feels once it’s on!
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Just got some great pricing from Mike at XPH on the Turbosmart and Pure inlet pipe.

Will let everyone know how it feels once itís on!
Iím super jealous- please provide some before and after logs.
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Just got some great pricing from Mike at XPH on the Turbosmart and Pure inlet pipe.

Will let everyone know how it feels once itís on!
Did you get the plumb back model? Also I forget, are you 6MT or DCT? Hope you enjoy it. Thinking of getting the plumb back for my 6MT LCI.
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Did you get the plumb back model? Also I forget, are you 6MT or DCT? Hope you enjoy it. Thinking of getting the plumb back for my 6MT LCI.
Yup, plumb back going on my DCT, which I hear is pretty quiet and what I’m looking for. It’s all going on late next week, so should have some feedback in a couple weekends!
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In the first response to this thread, I listed three ways to decrease lag.

1) Diverter valve upgrade

2) Increasing burble timing to where you're usually in a burble event when applying throttle.

3) adding nitrous to spin the turbo faster at low rpm... disabling nitrous when outside of the lag-zone.

#1 is being discussed here. Obviously #3 isn't for most people, so I understand the lack of discussion on it. But I'm wondering why #2 isn't being discussed here.

Do you guys not notice a significant decrease in lag when you apply throttle while the burbles are still active? The difference is night and day in my car, which is using the OEM DV and turbo, and throttle response is instantaneous.
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