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CosmosMpower · 10-28-2019, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

What I don't understand is all these shops who sell and tune with BM3 can't bench flash it on their own??

I think they can but people don't want to yank their ECU's out and deal with it.

Bimmer28312 · 10-28-2019, 11:23 PM

Don't mind the removal what I do mind and probably most people is shipping away their DME across the pond.

msdss · 10-29-2019, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

Don't mind the removal what I do mind and probably most people is shipping away their DME across the pond.

Go with ECUTek then. Fuck it.

Big Fabri · 10-29-2019, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

Don't mind the removal what I do mind and probably most people is shipping away their DME across the pond.

There is no need to remove the ecu anymore [IMG][/IMG]

doughboy · 10-29-2019, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

What I don't understand is all these shops who sell and tune with BM3 can't bench flash it on their own??

Remember most of these so called generic "tuners" or "tuning shops" are just product re-sellers and often not specialist in much at all (except talking BS mostly).

Using BM3 is easy, but bench flashing is a few levels up from that and most shops dont have the time or equipment expertise to get into that.

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

I think they can but people don't want to yank their ECU's out and deal with it.

No need if you take your car to a place that will "bench" flash, it can be done in situ, but you need to find somewhere first....

Megator · 10-29-2019, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by doughboy

Remember most of these so called generic "tuners" or "tuning shops" are just product re-sellers and often not specialist in much at all (except talking BS mostly).

LOL love it. Yeah I don't want to take crap appart if it does not need to be.

I hope it gets cracked b4 my warranty runs out!

Trapperj · 10-29-2019, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

Don't mind the removal what I do mind and probably most people is shipping away their DME across the pond.

Perhaps across the pond is a figure of speech, but not as far as across the Atlantic. Shipping from Ontario (PTF home base) to me in Eastern TN was only two days via DHL. Anyone that’s considering just make certain all the documents are in order. No need to be held up by customs needlessly.

CosmosMpower · 10-29-2019, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by doughboy

Remember most of these so called generic "tuners" or "tuning shops" are just product re-sellers and often not specialist in much at all (except talking BS mostly).

Using BM3 is easy, but bench flashing is a few levels up from that and most shops dont have the time or equipment expertise to get into that.

No need if you take your car to a place that will "bench" flash, it can be done in situ, but you need to find somewhere first....

How does bench flash work if you don't need to remove the ECU? Do they plug into the obd2 port to unlock the ECU and flash it?

CSL335i · 10-29-2019, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

How does bench flash work if you don't need to remove the ECU? Do they plug into the obd2 port to unlock the ECU and flash it?

When bench flashing, the tuner connects its device cable directly to the selected ECU connector pins and apply a backdoor in Tricore processor to read and write the selected areas.

CosmosMpower · 10-29-2019, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CSL335i

When bench flashing, the tuner connects its device cable directly to the selected ECU connector pins and apply a backdoor in Tricore processor to read and write the selected areas.

You don't have to remove it to access the pins?

doughboy · 10-30-2019, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

You don't have to remove it to access the pins?

Look at the picture in post 668 above.

The term "bench flash" just means a direct connection to the ECU while it's disconnected from the car.

Of course if you want to post the ECU then you need to remove it, but if you take the car to the tuner then they can just unplug the ECU connectors and directly connect that way.

brad65ford · 10-30-2019, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brad65ford

Saw the update on all the OTS tunes. Wanting to do the stage 2 93 soon and see if I picked us some measurable ET time drop ;-)

Good questions LOL. Flashed the new updates for stage 2 93 today. Not sure if its my mind but it feels like it picked up some torque downstairs. There is a difference in burble sound which is hard to explain even with the same settings as before,... I like it. Not sure why but the gts roar didn't work for me, will attempt tomorrow..

AM9 · 10-30-2019, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by brad65ford

Good questions LOL. Flashed the new updates for stage 2 93 today. Not sure if its my mind but it feels like it picked up some torque downstairs. There is a difference in burble sound which is hard to explain even with the same settings as before,... I like it. Not sure why but the gts roar didn't work for me, will attempt tomorrow..

GTS roar sounds like its less of a roar now but still more than stock to me on this last update.

Kelvin1000 · 10-30-2019, 10:24 PM

I have been noticing some throttle inconsistencies but only under the following conditions:
Sport Plus
Second gear (6MT)
When applying 50% throttle between 4,000 and 6,000 RPMs

Anyone else experiencing this?

Otherwise, the version 9.0 maps are very smooth and powerful.

MR RIZK · 10-31-2019, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

I have been noticing some throttle inconsistencies but only under the following conditions:
Sport Plus
Second gear (6MT)
When applying 50% throttle between 4,000 and 6,000 RPMs

Anyone else experiencing this?

Otherwise, the version 9.0 maps are very smooth and powerful.

Seems similar to this post

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=25402957

AlpsRider · 10-31-2019, 04:27 PM

Heads up:
Once you flash one of the new tunes with the extra cooling feature and select extra cooling, you won't be able to turn it off and have the same cooling behavior. It will either be all sport modes extra cooling or all sport modes normal. Extra cooling in just Sport+ won't work. If you flash the stock tune then all is as it was with just Sport+ having extra cooling. Flashing back to a tune with the cooling feature will make sport modes be all cooling or all normal again.

Kelvin1000 · 10-31-2019, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MR RIZK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

I have been noticing some throttle inconsistencies but only under the following conditions:
Sport Plus
Second gear (6MT)
When applying 50% throttle between 4,000 and 6,000 RPMs

Anyone else experiencing this?

Otherwise, the version 9.0 maps are very smooth and powerful.

Seems similar to this post

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=25402957

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Originally Posted by MR RIZK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

I have been noticing some throttle inconsistencies but only under the following conditions:
Sport Plus
Second gear (6MT)
When applying 50% throttle between 4,000 and 6,000 RPMs

Anyone else experiencing this?

Otherwise, the version 9.0 maps are very smooth and powerful.

Seems similar to this post

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=25402957

Anyone else have these oscillations on Sport+ around 5,000 RPMs at half throttle?

m20e3087 · 11-01-2019, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

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Originally Posted by MR RIZK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

I have been noticing some throttle inconsistencies but only under the following conditions:
Sport Plus
Second gear (6MT)
When applying 50% throttle between 4,000 and 6,000 RPMs

Anyone else experiencing this?

Otherwise, the version 9.0 maps are very smooth and powerful.

Seems similar to this post

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=25402957

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR RIZK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

I have been noticing some throttle inconsistencies but only under the following conditions:
Sport Plus
Second gear (6MT)
When applying 50% throttle between 4,000 and 6,000 RPMs

Anyone else experiencing this?

Otherwise, the version 9.0 maps are very smooth and powerful.

Seems similar to this post

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=25402957

Anyone else have these oscillations on Sport+ around 5,000 RPMs at half throttle?

I am having same issue. Sport plus, MDM, 4th-5th gear between 4000 to 5500.

Kelvin1000 · 11-01-2019, 10:36 AM

I went back to the old Stage 1 93 Octane Version 8.7 and the 50% partial "throttle oscillation" around 5K RPMs in Sport+ went away completely.

However, Version 8.7 is not as smooth at lower RPMs as Version 9.0 which seems to have an improved torque delivery curve.

Hopefully PTF can address this on Version 9.1 since it would make the tune just about perfect.

CosmosMpower · 11-01-2019, 10:44 AM

Man seems like customers are doing beta testing for their tunes, kind of glad I can't obd2 flash BM3 after reading stuff like this.

Kelvin1000 · 11-01-2019, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

Man seems like customers are doing beta testing for their tunes, kind of glad I can't obd2 flash BM3 after reading stuff like this.

Don't get me wrong, both Stage 1 Versions (8.7 and 9.0) are worlds apart from stock and easily the best upgrade you can do to these cars.

Even the stock software power delivery is a bit jerky on Sport+ and the folks at PTF will continue to improve the tune and add new features.

The BM3 platform turns this car into an absolutely monster!

AlpsRider · 11-01-2019, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

Don't get me wrong, both Stage 1 Versions (8.7 and 9.0) are worlds apart from stock and easily the best upgrade you can do to these cars.

Even the stock software power delivery is a bit jerky on Sport+ and the folks at PTF will continue to improve the tune and add new features.

The BM3 platform turns this car into an absolutely monster!

Yes, I tire eating beast.

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Bimmer28312 Major 342 Rep 1,122 Posts Drives: BMW N55 335xi Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Don't mind the removal what I do mind and probably most people is shipping away their DME across the pond.
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Kelvin1000 Major 253 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW M2 Competition MT Hoc Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (4)	I have been noticing some throttle inconsistencies but only under the following conditions: Sport Plus Second gear (6MT) When applying 50% throttle between 4,000 and 6,000 RPMs Anyone else experiencing this? Otherwise, the version 9.0 maps are very smooth and powerful.
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AlpsRider Brigadier General 2865 Rep 3,842 Posts Drives: M2 Competition, LBB, 6MT Join Date: May 2015 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Heads up: Once you flash one of the new tunes with the extra cooling feature and select extra cooling, you won't be able to turn it off and have the same cooling behavior. It will either be all sport modes extra cooling or all sport modes normal. Extra cooling in just Sport+ won't work. If you flash the stock tune then all is as it was with just Sport+ having extra cooling. Flashing back to a tune with the cooling feature will make sport modes be all cooling or all normal again.
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Kelvin1000 Major 253 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW M2 Competition MT Hoc Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (4)	I went back to the old Stage 1 93 Octane Version 8.7 and the 50% partial "throttle oscillation" around 5K RPMs in Sport+ went away completely. However, Version 8.7 is not as smooth at lower RPMs as Version 9.0 which seems to have an improved torque delivery curve. Hopefully PTF can address this on Version 9.1 since it would make the tune just about perfect.
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CosmosMpower Brigadier General 2051 Rep 3,714 Posts Drives: F87c, GT3, MK7 GTI Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Frisco, TX iTrader: (1)	Man seems like customers are doing beta testing for their tunes, kind of glad I can't obd2 flash BM3 after reading stuff like this.
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