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      09-17-2019, 01:46 PM   #23
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No worries mate, I was just being giddy.
Sounds like a lot of money for what is basically an M2C with the mperformance parts bolted on.
Was the bonnet like the M3 / M4 cs or was it like the mperformance version?
Imo neither, it has a recess (assuming it is the correct word in English) part on both sides in the longitudinal direction then an elevation making the dome. In the perpendicular direction, in between the dome and the bmw logo there is then a relatively large vent
Is this like the M3/4cs hood then?
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Is this like the M3/4cs hood then?
You are right , looking again to M3/4 CS pics for comparison it is certainly closer , may be some proportions and angle of lines on the M2CS are different.
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Is this like the M3/4cs hood then?
You are right , looking again to M3/4 CS pics for comparison it is certainly closer , may be some proportions and angle of lines on the M2CS are different.
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That’s decent
Are the ‘standard’ red brakes the same as the grey upgrade brakes on the M2C? Albeit in red rather than grey...

Did the car you saw have the CCB’s?
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That's with like 20% VAT added, so more £68,000 or $85,000 USD - they way us Yankees factor pricing.
Our VAT is @20% so I assume it'll be similar?
Yes, that the conversion I was referring to; I confirmed the VAT is 20% off £85,000 you quoted and came up with a rough calculation of $85,000 USD - give or take a few bucks..

Here, in the US, the tax rate percentage varies by state but it's not "included" in overall sticker price, as it's done in Europe.
Keep in mind a direct currency conversion does not give us our USD MSRP. BMWNA has control over this and prices things specific to our market/country. ...at one point I heard "in the 70's" for USD base. Time will tell.
There is no magical "control" here. BMW NA prices things based on Euro pricing minus VAT and then converts it.

So based on that 85k euros price tag the price in US should be between $77-80k without any options.

Pretty underwhelming at that price...and 0 weight savings is what makes this a CS and not a CSL.
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For around £/$/€80,000 it really would’ve been an amazing thing for it be be a depreciation proof CSL

But yeah, I will happily be interested for others going through with one, and will be slightly jealous, but sadly doubt I’ll be specc’ing one up to my own tastes
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I imagine the active suspension adds some weight to it...?
Might be related to the new rules in Europe to homologate cars. I understand that now car manufacturers have to homologate weight based on the standard car configuration. M2CS would have an advantage vs M2C for the carbon roof/hood and wheels but a disadvantage for the active suspension, additional carbon pieces (like the front splitter) and brakes (no sport brakes here on the base M2C)
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Waiting for Artemis to describe what he saw

I'm very excited for this vehicle. Quite frankly, I think if it comes in at under 100k CAD I'd be happy. Even better at 95 though, considering I paid 92,500 for my M3CS but it was sitting on the lot for like 13 months.

Still standing by a black M2CS, with gold wheels and red brakes with a manual transmission and Alcantara steering wheel
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That’s decent
Are the ‘standard’ red brakes the same as the grey upgrade brakes on the M2C? Albeit in red rather than grey...
Did the car you saw have the CCB’s?
The car on display had the red calipers/steel disc brakes. Claimed to be identical to the (optional here )grey calipers sport brakes of the M2C.
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In Belgium base prices (including 21%VAT)
M2C : 65 K
New M2 CS = 95 K
New 718 Cayman GT4 = 99 K
New 718 Spyder = 96 K
New 911 Carrera = 108 K
New 911 Carrera S = 122 K
I am sure the situation will be different in the US... The GT4 and Spyder are definitely the bargain here if you can get one.
why would anyone buy a M2CS instead of a GT4 at that price point...
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Waiting for Artemis to describe what he saw
I'm very excited for this vehicle. Quite frankly, I think if it comes in at under 100k CAD I'd be happy. Even better at 95 though, considering I paid 92,500 for my M3CS but it was sitting on the lot for like 13 months.
Still standing by a black M2CS, with gold wheels and red brakes with a manual transmission and Alcantara steering wheel
No offense taken...Artemis might however have his vision blurred by the champagne, crowd and light show
Anyway perception of a car and color combo is very subjective... while I found the Misano blue color great the further combination with gold wheels/red calipers was so-so.
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I think misano blue with black rims and gold CCB would look mega...
Was it misano blue at the unveiling? Also we’re the splitters all the same as the bmw performance ones? Or more nicely moulded into the standard bumper?
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I think misano blue with black rims and gold CCB would look mega...
Was it misano blue at the unveiling? Also we're the splitters all the same as the bmw performance ones? Or more nicely moulded into the standard bumper?
Would be a nice combo. I'm keen for AW, black rims and CCB 👌🏻
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I think misano blue with black rims and gold CCB would look mega...
Was it misano blue at the unveiling? Also we’re the splitters all the same as the bmw performance ones? Or more nicely moulded into the standard bumper?
The unveiling and related show is happening this evening but the car was already on display in a private room starting at 10 this morning. I believe they have only one car on site and yes it is Misano blue (with gold wheels and red brakes).
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Had OGM2, currently driving M2C and first in line for CS...but it's just not feeling special enough, and bloody well should be for the price that's being banded around.
Colours are "meh"...
Too many parts bin bits...I mean it doesn't even get its own special rims like the M3/M4 CS (staggered grey 763 style rims without MPerformance stamped in them). I've already got the upgraded brakes and black 763s on my comp.
Nothing special inside really, same old dash and dials...
I have Hock silver already, really don't like Misano, would get black but then all the carbon wouldn't "pop"...
Something like San Marino blue, new wheels, upgraded dash/or at least leather coated and the carbon boot lid would make it a must own for me.
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Also waiting for Artemis I have a great OG LBB has every mod possible besides turbo upgrade. I've been waiting for the CS and believe it will be awesome. I love the M2 platform at 90k US ITS A NO! 80 to 85 I'll prob get one. First on two lists including knowing a fleet manager. Hoping for euro delivery and will fully enjoy the experience and car. Misano blue is nice in person but not special like LBB but with the carbon and hood etc it will be a mean bitch. Misano Blue Black wheels red brakes for me.
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Or if it's champagne that's good, but it's 23:00 and we still have no news from Artemis ....
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Yea, the event is over. He must be really enjoying himself .
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