[twin fed]

I was hoping for Tanzanite Blue or Donnington Gray, but Mineral Gray is not a bad option. But what I want to know is if they are going to come out with other choices later on in production.

As far as the numbers I think that ///M is spot on. The horsepower/torque is not going to be as important as the actual feel of the car. Plus we all know that BMW underrates their power figures. If this is a deterrent for those window shoppers, great, more cars for us serious buyers.

[GOLFFRR]

Originally Posted by 255zr

really? how low were your expectations? My M235i actually appears to be a much better deal price/performance. I'm starting to Wonder if BM is not starting to lose the plot a little. This is my 3rd bimmer, not sure there is going to be a 4th one.

everyone has different views which is great. For me I wasn't sure if I would ever goto anything smaller then a M3 then the new 2 series came out and I was impressed. I currently have a M4 but the M2 specs that are coming out look very appealing. Will I leave my M4 for a M2, maybe who knows. The 435 is a great vehicle and more then enough car then one would need but the M4 is def another level. With that in mind I'm sure M will do the same with M2 vs 235.

[ilikebmxbikes]

Originally Posted by DarkstarZero

I'm expecting to see CFRP panels that will reduce weight to 228 levels but with slightly more than M235 power. That's the perfect car.

We should also see more attention to weight saving up front so the car has a perfect 50/50 balance instead of being front-heavy like the M235. All of that combined would make it a much better car.

The challenge for this car is it has to price between the m235i and the m3/4.

They cannot include too much carbon as it won't fit the product line. I think it will weigh the same as the m235i but have the additional power and chassis refinement.

[iamdabest1]

Long beach blue for me , but let's keep in mind they are under stating the hp figures to make the m4 look that much better , it'll prob be like 400hp .

[///Mobbin]

I'm now curious if we'll see the M2 tomorrow.

[Siciliano611]

Originally Posted by iamdabest1

Long beach blue for me , but let's keep in mind they are under stating the hp figures to make the m4 look that much better , it'll prob be like 400hp .

No it won't, the m4 is stated 425 hp and dynos at between 420-435...so the best you can hope for at the wheels, even understated, is 375hp

[AtlantaDude]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

not sure why you ever expected that....really. this car is following the 1M formula...and has been from the beginning. The M235i weighs over 3500 pounds. If you want a 3000 pound M2----I hope you have $125k as that is how much a car that would lose 14% of it's weight would cost after engineering.

Yes. You are right overall, and we all know that. But hopes and dreams are still there. Realistically, they did exactly as expected, like you said. But i've been hoping that they were just pulling the wool over our eyes, and were gonna sucker punch us with an awesome little corner killer with an awesome (even detuned) S55 motor. But, that WAS/IS unrealistic. But, i'm still disappointed. :/

But, we'll see. It's gonna be good regardless. Probably even great. But, i'm selfish....

[M3 n X5M]

OP, thank you for the update.

We can speculate on why this car will be a winner or a loser, and folks can complain all day. The safety, the cooling, the drivetrain demands and the design limitations would cause this car to spiral in price like the M3 GTS did in recent years if the car rivals the M4 performance. BMW makes it clear, this car is below the M4 and above a M235i. It will please certain folk between those two cars, who can afford a car in between. Period.

Perhaps the reduced weight and shorter wheelbase, along with a wide track and a mechanical locking diff will make the M2 shine on a very short track. And if so, the M2 will become an instant autocross fantasy car! This is what I think BMW is trying to do with the M2.

Stripped I would expect 55k, and loaded $65k USD OTD. Again, not for everyone, but for someone who is single, drives to the track and is not rich.

This car will have a following.

[Red Bread]

I hate you Sapphire Black. I miss the days of being able to get an M car in Jet Black.

[AlexGT]

M2 will look great on any color (better in orange), BUT, my tuned M235i will eat a stock M2 with those factory specs.... I really expected to have at least 400HP stock, not a fan of those numbers

[e92ben]

Bmw is really letting me down with no red option. All my old Ms (except my Jerez) all have been red. I feel like that's the best color for all past generations of M models.

[AtlantaDude]

Originally Posted by AlexGT

M2 will look great on any color (better in orange), BUT, my tuned M235i will eat a stock M2 with those factory specs.... I really expected to have at least 400HP stock, not a fan of those numbers

Oh shit.... Now you're gonna start it. You're gonna learn like all us 335i guys. Just don't..... Trust me, it's not worth the flailing.

[MCarsFan]

Sakhir Orange..little surprised by the numbers though..sub 400hp

[Commanderwiggin]

Originally Posted by e92ben

Bmw is really letting me down with no red option. All my old Ms (except my Jerez) all have been red. I feel like that's the best color for all past generations of M models.

This ^^^

I want Imola Red or Melbourne Red at the very least. Zinno would be a cool comeback.

Not Brilliant or Vermillion though.

[Blindside_137]

BTW... have these colors been rendered?

I remember some a while back but hasn't the car revealed more lately and dropped camp? Any updated renders?

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

everyone has different views which is great. For me I wasn't sure if I would ever goto anything smaller then a M3 then the new 2 series came out and I was impressed. I currently have a M4 but the M2 specs that are coming out look very appealing. Will I leave my M4 for a M2, maybe who knows. The 435 is a great vehicle and more then enough car then one would need but the M4 is def another level. With that in mind I'm sure M will do the same with M2 vs 235.

I am really failing to see your logic here. Why would you leave your M4 for an M2? You obviously don't need the room because you purchased the coupe and not the sedan. You never really saw yourself in something smaller than the 4 series so why go to something not only smaller, but lower in performance. From someone in your situation the M2 specs cannot look appealing.

[swagon]

Proper red: Imola Red, Melbourne Red, goddamnit.

I'd probably take a red or AW.

[Blindside_137]

Originally Posted by rjd598

I am really failing to see your logic here. Why would you leave your M4 for an M2? You obviously don't need the room because you purchased the coupe and not the sedan. You never really saw yourself in something smaller than the 4 series so why go to something not only smaller, but lower in performance. From someone in your situation the M2 specs cannot look appealing.

It might be more fun to drive... just a thought, or something different as people can always want something new after a while

[bahasad]

I hope that they keep the price in check. For low $50s, it is an enticing proposition to enter into the M pantheon, but anymore then $55K, I'd rather be looking at an ED, lightly optioned, M3.

[Stratus650]

Well limited colors is good news for me Dackel hehe

If i ever get the M2, its gonna be this Individual Champagne Quartz Metallic

[loxxrider]

I realize it's been "known" for a long time, but the lack of a unique or at least "M-unique" engine is really frustrating. I can deal with the weight if the engine is truly special. I can also deal with a "normal" engine a little more readily if there are significant weight savings included like I expect we'll see by 2020 or so in the form of CFRP or CF/Al body structures in mainstream BMWs.

I really feel we're on the verge of having a much better 2 series in a few years. I believe we are on the edge of the cliff in terms of this dated, heavy, all-metal design for cars and in a few years we will see a whole new ballgame. BMW does now have the largest CF production facility in the world after all... and it is confirmed that the 7 series will be getting significant carbon use in the chassis design. It's only a matter of time before the tech is integrated into every vehicle in the BMW line.

This also means we're probably nearly at the end of the hp war. With lighter vehicles, we will not need the same horsepower to achieve the same performance we are getting now. Imagine a 2900 lb M2 with any engine a few years from now. That's the one I really want. Of course, the option for a manual transmission will probably be gone at that point and that will be the end of BMW for me. I'll never buy another new car when it comes to that (except maybe for my future wife )

ANYWAY, I too find the color choices quite drab and think the power increase over an M235i is fairly lame as well. This feels like a marketing car rather than what an M is supposed to be. I know the M3/4 are big and heavy, but they still feel very M-like to me. They're special the way the E39 M5 was special. They're the new M5 and we need a new M3. I don't think the M2 is that car. Sorry for the rambling, but I do feel a little let down.

However, I suspect I'd quite like it if I drove one and I'd probably be damned close to buying one if I did. Noone else offers a manual trans, RWD, refined package quite like BMW does. It seems like a safe bet to wait it out for the next generation 2 though if you can muster the patience. Then again, I'm not too interested in a four cylinder M as I already have one of those! The aural bliss that is a BMW I6 is something I must have. OK, I'm done. I swear!

[RingMeister01]

Can't go wrong with white. Numbers look good but let's see what it weights in at.