[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Brake_Late

I'm so glad that BMW found a way to off all of the extra parts made for the F8x platform. CCBs,,Seats , S55s, and DCTs for starters.
Good plan at the end of production for F series.

Good on BMW.

M2 is a magical car, I much prefer it over the M4.

[RPM33]

In the 7/1/19 video, car looks very agile and nimble. Definitely looks track focused. Looking forward to the reveal.

[Jagudelo12]

Colors? I've heard the 4 but are they guaranteed ? Lbb?

[gsrbri]

Put some optional M4 GTS Euro seats in this thing

[Brake_Late]

Originally Posted by gsrbri

Put some optional M4 GTS Euro seats in this thing

Seriously they probably have a bunch sitting around unsold

[19x]

Originally Posted by gsrbri

Put some optional M4 GTS Euro seats in this thing

Ditto!

I don't understand why the CS variants don't come with more aggressive seats. It's a CS model for a reason. It's suppose to be more performance-oriented, just like the e46 M3 CSL was. It came with proper bucket seats. Why can't these cars?

I'm not going to say that it's a deal breaker, but it's big enough of a deal to have me re-consider things. You're paying significantly more for a car that offers so little vs the M2 Comp. The least they could do to distinguish it would be to install some proper bucket seats. I don't know about the rest of you, but that would actually draw a lot more of my attention. Not to mention shed some more weight. Yes, I know that I can install some aftermarket buckets, but OE is OE.

[M2Cmtl]

Originally Posted by ///Mac

Ditto!

I don't understand why the CS variants don't come with more aggressive seats. It's a CS model for a reason. It's suppose to be more performance-oriented, just like the e46 M3 CSL was. It came with proper bucket seats. Why can't these cars?

I think this is due to crash tests.

[Sedan_Clan]

I like those ///M2 CS seats.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

LOL, no it won't. There was never a 40-50k ADM on the original GT4. Maybe a GT2RS. Markup might be 10-15k tops but I bet you'll be able to get one for MSRP pretty quickly since the specs aren't very good.

LOL all you want. We will see. The NA era generally speaking is nearing its respective end, so the 981 GT4 market is irrelevant.

And on what planet is 400+ BHP, 8000 RPM, and NA “not very good”?

I’m sure you have a smug smile as you lovingly wipe down your Prius.

[IB M]

I'd go with Alpine White, CCBs and your tranny of choice.

I can't wait for the 1M owners to tee off with M2CS owners over who has bragging rights.

[SeanWRT]

The bucket seat is a bit too hardcore for the CS moniker. Look at M3/4 CS and reasonably lower the expectation.

One good alternative would be the M performance seat that's found earlier on M2 performance version (North America only model), virtually a BMW rebranded Recaro CS, which offers a significant amount of weight savings, while retaining quality of life features - back-angle adjustability and quick fold/unfold function.

Also, the more raw performance seat works better with M2 language than the competition seat does. That being said, GTS seat is more attractive no question about it. But it's just not realistic having it with the M2 CS.

[BLACK OPS]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

No one seems to be mentioning it, but something looks odd about the rear quarter panels. I'm wondering if there are brake cooling vents built into the quarter panels. I first thought it was allusion from camo, but it doesn't look right.

Originally Posted by medphysdave

No one seems to be mentioning it, but something looks odd about the rear quarter panels. I'm wondering if there are brake cooling vents built into the quarter panels. I first thought it was allusion from camo, but it doesn't look right.

Ive always felt the same about the M2 rear design which has kind of dissuaded me to wait for the G80. The CS is different...but the same. 1M design concept with the perfect upgrades.

[amrazM]

Originally Posted by gsrbri

Put some optional M4 GTS Euro seats in this thing

FWIW it’s not that easy to sell a mass produced car in the USA with bucket seats or similar.

[10"]

Originally Posted by IB M

I'd go with Alpine White, CCBs and your tranny of choice.

I can't wait for the 1M owners to tee off with M2CS owners over who has bragging rights.

1M Owners don't need to tee off with anyone! The 1M is already a classic. As a BMW executive once told me "the 1M is one of a kind and will always be unique"

The M2 CS looks interesting but adding power wasn't the issue here. Wish they instead focused on adding more feel to the car. Simplified suspension, hydraulic steering (never going to happen), manual only transmission, lighter weight. That's what the M2 needed, IMO. Don't think any of that is happening...

I've always liked the M2 I've driven several now; but overall the car lacks feel. Wish they'd fix that instead of taking the easy solution and just adding more hp.

I hope they make the M2 really kickass for the sake of people itching for this more connected small BMW M car but can't see this happening if it's 3600+lbs

[gds52]

Originally Posted by 10"

1M Owners don't need to tee off with anyone! The 1M is already a classic. As a BMW executive once told me "the 1M is one of a kind and will always be unique"

The M2 CS looks interesting but adding power wasn't the issue here. Wish they instead focused on adding more feel to the car. Simplified suspension, hydraulic steering (never going to happen), manual only transmission, lighter weight. That's what the M2 needed, IMO. Don't think any of that is happening...

I've always liked the M2 I've driven several now; but overall the car lacks feel. Wish they'd fix that instead of taking the easy solution and just adding more hp.

I hope they make the M2 really kickass for the sake of people itching for this more connected small BMW M car but can't see this happening if it's 3600+lbs

I drove my friend's M2C 6MT, the car is v fast, very responsive...no doubt its a great car.
But the steering feel is not there..as we all know.
Also, it's more on the comfort side...I feel it to be too much insulated. Exhaust sound seems like coming from 2 blocks away.

This is such a nice beautiful car, I wish it had more 'connecting' feeling.

[Tornado1M]

Originally Posted by IB M

I'd go with Alpine White, CCBs and your tranny of choice.

I can't wait for the 1M owners to tee off with M2CS owners over who has bragging rights.

No comparison honestly.

These cars are so different and almost 10 years apart!

Holy shit....damn near a decade!

[city1991]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Love the specs; naturally-aspirated, mid-engine, 414hp and manual only.

The M2 CS is in a different league from the GT4 though; the "limited production" status, manual option, adaptive suspension, not to mention its last-M2-build-in-Germany will guarantee a legendary status in automotive history.

It's too bad they don't off the NA motor as an option in other series. I'd take an NA motor in a 4 series all day. Hate the turbo issues with ANY car, not just BMW.

[IB M]

Originally Posted by gds52

I drove my friend's M2C 6MT, the car is v fast, very responsive...no doubt its a great car.
But the steering feel is not there..as we all know.
Also, it's more on the comfort side...I feel it to be too much insulated. Exhaust sound seems like coming from 2 blocks away.

This is such a nice beautiful car, I wish it had more 'connecting' feeling.

Word is the 3CS was an improved "overall feel" compared to ZCP.

M2CS may feel way better without the M2C heavy wheels and brakes. Time will tell.

[MystroX5]

My M2C has almost too much brakes for town driving. Grabby as hell and will throw anyone through the windshield not buckled up. Carbon Ceramic brakes on this little car puts it in a "track only" category for me. The M2C is hardcore enough for me. God I love the focus BMW is directing to the M2. The good old days of the ultimate driver focused M-Car is now.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by 10"

I've always liked the M2 I've driven several now; but overall the car lacks feel. Wish they'd fix that instead of taking the easy solution and just adding more hp.

Originally Posted by IB M

M2CS may feel way better without the M2C heavy wheels and brakes. Time will tell.

Fit a set of 763M wheels with Pilot Sport 4S tires (or Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires if you want to go all the way), drive it through the twisties till dusk and let us know how the ride went.

[///Mangler]

Originally Posted by ///Mac

Ditto!

I don't understand why the CS variants don't come with more aggressive seats. It's a CS model for a reason. It's suppose to be more performance-oriented, just like the e46 M3 CSL was. It came with proper bucket seats. Why can't these cars?

I'm not going to say that it's a deal breaker, but it's big enough of a deal to have me re-consider things. You're paying significantly more for a car that offers so little vs the M2 Comp. The least they could do to distinguish it would be to install some proper bucket seats. I don't know about the rest of you, but that would actually draw a lot more of my attention. Not to mention shed some more weight. Yes, I know that I can install some aftermarket buckets, but OE is OE.

CSL didn't have airbags in the seats.

T

[19x]

Originally Posted by ///Mangler

CSL didn't have airbags in the seats.

T

Is that really why?

So how's any of this different from a GT3 or the GT4 with bucket seats? - How come those cars have no such issues? - I presume they have airbags in the bucket seats? And if so, why wouldn't BMW?

IMO, this should be an option, just like CCB. I would gladly pay more for proper buckets. In fact, I would take bucket seats over ridiculous spoilers, front lips, diffusers, and exhausts.