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      10-01-2018, 12:00 PM   #1
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▀▄ eas | MY19 M2 Competition Dynojet results! (whp) (Sep 2018)

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Here's what we've all been waiting for! M2 Competitions have been released and now hitting the streets. We were able to strap one to our in-house dynojet and share some baseline numbers.

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- Stock, 1200mi service completed





M2 vs M2 Competition



Stock M4 (non-ZCP) vs M2 Competition



As seen the M2C peaks at 397whp/443ft-lb tq, about ~20whp shy of M4 numbers, likely through detuning. We'll see what numbers we can reach once tuned as well as compare other M2 Competitions as they come through the doors.

Enjoy!
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great result

looking forward to the tuning results
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Not too shabby...what was the OG M2 stock number at the wheel?
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Interesting results. Different to what we found in the European cars?

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Thanks for sharing.

Were they gotten on 4th or 5th gear?
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Interesting results. Different to what we found in the European cars?

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No, these are WHP (power at the wheels) results as opposed to BHP (power at the crank) results from G-Power.

397whp with 10% drivetrain loss would approximately correspond to 440HP at the crank (and 10% drivetrain loss is a conservative number).
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Interesting results. Different to what we found in the European cars?

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Thought I read somewhere the EU cars have higher boost to compensate for the OPF. Would be interesting to see what the EU M2c puts out for WHP/TQ.

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Can someone dumb it down for me please?

- is this better or worse than what we expected or about the same?

- what exactly does it mean when it's been detuned? Like does that mean we can easily get m3/m4 numbers with a tune or something?

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No, these are WHP (power at the wheels) results as opposed to BHP (power at the crank) results from G-Power.

397whp with 10% drivetrain loss would approximately correspond to 440HP at the crank (and 10% drivetrain loss is a conservative number).
Yes, 10% drivetrain loss is very conservative for a front engine car. Either way, very impressive numbers. I've said it before this engine is a peach and runs well.
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Can someone dumb it down for me please?

- is this better or worse than what we expected or about the same?
The car is rated at 410HP and is delivering 397HP to the wheels so it's apparently underrated (aka good news).

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- what exactly does it mean when it's been detuned? Like does that mean we can easily get m3/m4 numbers with a tune or something?

Thanks!
Correct, it shares the same engine with exact same parts so you can easily match or exceed M3/M4 numbers. In fact, there is a member making near 600whp with a E85 tune on his M2C.
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Can someone dumb it down for me please?

- is this better or worse than what we expected or about the same?

- what exactly does it mean when it's been detuned? Like does that mean we can easily get m3/m4 numbers with a tune or something?

Thanks!
1. Better than I would expect

2. The M2C's engine has been slightly detuned by BMW as not to weigh on M3/4 sales. And, of course like he said ^
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Man, they really detune these cars.
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Thanks for sharing.

Were they gotten on 4th or 5th gear?
5th gear.

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Not too shabby...what was the OG M2 stock number at the wheel?
Added M2 vs M2C dyno to OP for comparison.
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No, these are WHP (power at the wheels) results as opposed to BHP (power at the crank) results from G-Power.

397whp with 10% drivetrain loss would approximately correspond to 440HP at the crank (and 10% drivetrain loss is a conservative number).
Strange the M2 N55 was so high at the wheel. Isn't it usually like 330-335 on 91 octane?
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I’d be curious to see if there is much of a difference stock with and without charcoal filters.
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Strange the M2 N55 was so high at the wheel. Isn't it usually like 330-335 on 91 octane?
Results usually vary depending on the temp, correction factor etc but given that these two cars were on the same dyno and the same correction factor is used for both of them (even though OG M2's dyno is probably not from the same day), I think it's still a fair comparison. 44whp/45wtq difference between OG M2 and M2C is less than what I expected though.
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Thought I read somewhere the EU cars have higher boost to compensate for the OPF. Would be interesting to see what the EU M2c puts out for WHP/TQ.
yes, EU cars have .1 bar more boost.
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notice @2.5k the N55 has 75more FT LB than the S55 400ish vs 325. After 3k its all S55. explains less low end snap for the M2C.carl
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Results usually vary depending on the temp, correction factor etc but given that these two cars were on the same dyno and the same correction factor is used for both of them (even though OG M2's dyno is probably not from the same day), I think it's still a fair comparison. 44whp/45wtq difference between OG M2 and M2C is less than what I expected though.
WAY less than I expected. Since I don't usually see N55 results that high I guess we will know more when more results come in.
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3.3% bhp to whp variance for N55 M2 vs 2% bhp to whp variance for S55 M2... so the S55 M2 is actually more underrated than N55.
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So the M2C has more torque than a M4. Interesting.
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WAY less than I expected. Since I don't usually see N55 results that high I guess we will know more when more results come in.
Don't focus too much on the peak numbers though. Look at the area under curve after 2700RPM. It's quite impressive IMO. For instance, around 6600RPM M2C is making nearly 60whp more than OG M2.
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