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It actually means quite a bit. The original M3 was designed to be used as a homologated race car, meaning the engine choice was dictated more by the race class than buyers needs/desires. The M2 is not being designed for such a purpose. I6 is is/will be.
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Until BMW themselves make an official announcement of what the engine spec will be in the car, everything until then is just internet speculation. My best mate that knows the guy that sweeps the floor at BMW ///M says he's seen this bit of paper that says whatever doesn't count as fact
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Until there is an official announcement, no one knows, but it is still fun to speculate. There is, in my opinion, no way BMW is going to put the M3/4 S55 into an M2 and call it an S55. They might put in the S55 with enough differences (such as different turbo and intake cooling systems) in the M2 to call it a N55B30T0, though. After all, the S55 internals will all fit, the R&D has been done to verify safety margins to well above the planned HP rating of the M2, they already have a supply chain for the S55 internals and the base N55 internals are supposedly riding the ragged edge of reliability at the M2 power levels.
That is my prediction. A screaming turbo 4 would be fun, though, and would help with weight. |
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Where I expect the M2 motor to take advantage of the S55 is in cooling and pretensioning of turbos. Let's face it, that's where the N54/55 is weak, cooling. I've said it before, where I'll be curious is if the M2 gets the air-to-water intercooler on the S55 or goes with a standard front-mount air intercooler. |
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check the sources of the info----that's pulled directly from the BMW test schedule....so not sure why you can't believe it. but you're not the only one....seems plenty of people love to pretend it's fake. oh well...your loss and your waste of time!! this source has been bang-on correct for every model in the past... |
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I am sure it will be a tuned version of the N55. For those who want a normally aspirated engine those days are gone I am afraid. The demands of the fuel efficiency standards (particularly in the USA) have made it very difficult to get 300 hp plus in a normally aspirated engine with acceptable levels of efficiency. Of course the big race is for weight reduction, if BMW can get big weight reductions from the use of carbon reinforced plastics and introduce them into mainstream models (they say they are) then we may see a return to normally aspirated models to offset the costs of the use of these materials. The next decade will be fascinating in the automotive industry.
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Those tuned N55s aren't frying piston rings or blowing head gaskets. Last edited by Jockey; 05-14-2014 at 05:11 PM.. |
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I would love if BMW brought back the n54 for this. By far my favorite motor BMW has ever produced.
(Ive owned s50, s52, s54, n20, s85 s65 etc)
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would you care to elaborate on why you prefer the n54 to some of the other wonderful engines you have owned? (s54, s85, s65) |
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Call me crazy, but I'd like to see BMW transition the M2 to being the "king of the M cars". I think with a tuned up M3/M4 engine, the M2 has the potential to be BMWs "super car". Think about it, the m3 is faster round a track than the m5, so why can't the m2 be faster round the track than the m3?
The m2 would appeal to people like myself who want a more focused track car, the m3/4 would appeal to folks who want more of a GT car, and the m5 is for those who want the ultimate "baun burner". |
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It would be, but BMW is out of the "screaming" engine business; it's now truck engines for all. Lots of torque and WAY lower revs. No choice really, now that M-division just tunes engines rather than designs/builds them.
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Also, even the low-end P-cas are going turbo in the next round. Both the Boxster and Cayman are getting turbocharged flat-4 engines.
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