[KevinM]

I also expect approx a $54K base with DCT extra. Most cars will likely be approaching or over $60K with options.

There are at least 2 different demographics who want this car:
1. Those who want the least-expensive full-on (please let's not debate the engine again) M car.
2. Those who want this size M car regardless of the price (I'm in this camp).

Demographic #1 will be shunted to the M235i (soon to be M240i) if the M2 is too expensive or allotment too limited.

Demographic #2 will be shunted to an F80 or F82 if the M2 is too limited or too much of a hassle to buy (or to another brand; usually Mercedes, Audi or Porsche).

I'm expecting to pay > $60K with some options. If the allocation circus/mark-ups are too much take on principle alone I'll pick up an F80 or a used 997.2 GTS.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by KevinM

I also expect approx a $54K base with DCT extra. Most cars will likely be approaching or over $60K with options.

There are at least 2 different demographics who want this car:
1. Those who want the least-expensive full-on (please let's not debate the engine again) M car.
2. Those who want this size M car regardless of the price (I'm in this camp).

Demographic #1 will be shunted to the M235i (soon to be M240i) if the M2 is too expensive or allotment too limited.

Demographic #2 will be shunted to an F80 or F82 if the M2 is too limited or too much of a hassle to buy (or to another brand; usually Mercedes, Audi or Porsche).

I'm expecting to pay > $60K with some options. If the allocation circus/mark-ups are too much take on principle alone I'll pick up an F80 or a used 997.2 GTS.

I think you're dead on with this analysis - I wouldn't think that 2-3k one direction or another on the starting price would be so relevant to someone's purchasing decision (especially when we know it will be at least 50K+).

That certainly wouldn't the deciding factor for me, although it would be part of the overall analysis.

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by Cope

I wonder if DCT will be an optional extra that comes with a premium. That could certainly bloat the M2 price if they decide to make it standard equipment with the manual as a "no cost" option. Sure hope it's the former.

Hell yes.

M4/3 DCT adds £3k here in the UK.

Standard M2 has 6MT and DCT optional surely.

[Gibson6594]

Crazy that BMW has a 30K price difference between the M3 and M5, but the M2 could be practically the same price as the M3.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Gibson6594

Crazy that BMW has a 30K price difference between the M3 and M5, but the M2 could be practically the same price as the M3.

No different with that example. You load the M4 up with every single option possible and you'll be right at $90k

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Cope

I wonder if DCT will be an optional extra that comes with a premium. That could certainly bloat the M2 price if they decide to make it standard equipment with the manual as a "no cost" option. Sure hope it's the former.

Originally Posted by Chris The Manx

Hell yes.
M4/3 DCT adds £3k here in the UK.
Standard M2 has 6MT and DCT optional surely.

Indeed. M2 stock: 6MT | optional: M-DCT Drivelogic.

In Germany, M-DCT Drivelogic is a EUR3,900 option for the M3/M4.

I guess that it will be a little less for the M2 (option 2MK), but not much.

[Gibson6594]

Originally Posted by W///

No different with that example. You load the M4 up with every single option possible and you'll be right at $90k

I meant base prices. If the folks that think the M2 base will be north of 55K, say 56K, that's about a 12% price difference on a base M3. Compared to about a 49% price difference between an M3 and M5.

[pazzo]

I'm an enthusiast and am looking at the M2. Without a premium upgrade in interior from the M235 (Merino Leather for example) , it is unlikely I will spend the >10k difference to start. ymmv

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by pazzo

I'm an enthusiast and am looking at the M2. Without a premium upgrade in interior from the M235 (Merino Leather for example) , it is unlikely I will spend the >10k difference to start. ymmv

I think its been established with the recent VIN thread that its still 2 series dakota leather.

[Cope]

Originally Posted by pazzo

I'm an enthusiast and am looking at the M2. Without a premium upgrade in interior from the M235 (Merino Leather for example) , it is unlikely I will spend the >10k difference to start. ymmv

Are you a leather enthusiast or something? This doesn't sound like the car for you as you said.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by pazzo

I'm an enthusiast and am looking at the M2. Without a premium upgrade in interior from the M235 (Merino Leather for example) , it is unlikely I will spend the >10k difference to start. ymmv

It will be standard 2 series seats, with blue contrast stitching. No upgrades of that kind.

Just shit like DCT, brakes, suspension, exhaust, tires, track, etc....lol

[Kracken]

Originally Posted by KevinM

I also expect approx a $54K base with DCT extra. Most cars will likely be approaching or over $60K with options.

There are at least 2 different demographics who want this car:
1. Those who want the least-expensive full-on (please let's not debate the engine again) M car.
2. Those who want this size M car regardless of the price (I'm in this camp).

Demographic #1 will be shunted to the M235i (soon to be M240i) if the M2 is too expensive or allotment too limited.

Well, I'm dem #1 but may out of Bmw completely if it's $60k out the door.
The type r has me interested & will be $30k less. Yea, I know- it's still a Honda but Faster than many super cars at the ring according to this:

http://www.car24news.com/the-new-hon...ardo-lp-560-4/

[Jackie Chiles]

Originally Posted by Kracken

Well, I'm dem #1 but may out of Bmw completely if it's $60k out the door.
The type r has me interested & will be $30k less. Yea, I know- it's still a Honda but Faster than many super cars at the ring according to this:

http://www.car24news.com/the-new-hon...ardo-lp-560-4/

Type R may run $50k! I'll try to find the article I read this AM.

[Kracken]

Yikes...
228 or new 2016 civic si then.lol

[W///]

Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

Just had a dream that the M2 U.S. MSRP was $51,895 + destination.

Damn, you were close. You should start paying attention to your dreams more

[Adem1534]

Originally Posted by dan99

keep dreaming

Yeah. His dream was too high.

[phoenixbmwlife]

Awesomeness! It made sense to me they were going to price it low since it didn't have so many things like S engine CF roof etc.

I should dream of lottery numbers.

[vstM3]

Originally Posted by KevinM

I also expect approx a $54K base with DCT extra. Most cars will likely be approaching or over $60K with options.

There are at least 2 different demographics who want this car:
1. Those who want the least-expensive full-on (please let's not debate the engine again) M car.
2. Those who want this size M car regardless of the price (I'm in this camp).

Demographic #1 will be shunted to the M235i (soon to be M240i) if the M2 is too expensive or allotment too limited.

Demographic #2 will be shunted to an F80 or F82 if the M2 is too limited or too much of a hassle to buy (or to another brand; usually Mercedes, Audi or Porsche).

I'm expecting to pay > $60K with some options. If the allocation circus/mark-ups are too much take on principle alone I'll pick up an F80 or a used 997.2 GTS.

I'm on dem#2 as well, and I have the F80. Will use it for when I feel the need of the third pedal

[phoenixbmwlife]

A Quick Lease Estimation Based On Actual Lease Parameters But Guesses.
Each state will have different state tax so all prices are before taxes.
European Delivery used because its most likely where you will get the best deal.

Optioned at = $60,000 including D&H
ED Sale Price = $55,000 (Not impossible)
If Residual = 58% ($34,800) 59% ($35,400) 60% ($36,000)
If Base Money Factor = 0.0016 (ED)
7 MSDs 0.00007 = 0.00049
Adjusted Money Factor = 0.00111 (2.664%)
??k miles X 36 months

Lease Price if 58% residual = $661 + Tax
Lease Price if 59% residual = $644 + Tax
Lease Price if 60% residual = $628 + Tax

Not bad right? Your thoughts?

[AlpsRider]

Draw your own conclusions on the US price.

My 2016 M235i US MSRP, $52,120. with destination

German website my M235i configuration no tax, converted to dollars, $55,473.

German website M2 with my configuration no tax, converted to dollars, $63,155.

German M235i to M2 price difference, $7,682.

My US M235i price of $52,120. + $7,682 M2 adjustment

Projected M2 US price with my configuration= $59,802.


I hope that makes sense :-) Who knows what the marketing department will decide on US pricing. I used a fully optioned car because the base cars in the US come heavily optioned compared to German models making a base price difficult to compare.

If any of that is true then a more powerful engine + bigger wheels and tires + flared fenders and beefed up wider suspension + sport differential + M prestige might be worth the $7,682., if you want all of those things.

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

Draw your own conclusions on the US price.

My 2016 M235i US MSRP, $52,120. with destination

German website my M235i configuration no tax, converted to dollars, $55,473.

German website M2 with my configuration no tax, converted to dollars, $63,155.

German M235i to M2 price difference, $7,682.

My US M235i price of $52,120. + $7,682 M2 adjustment

Projected M2 US price with my configuration= $59,802.


I hope that makes sense :-) Who knows what the marketing department will decide on US pricing. I used a fully optioned car because the base cars in the US come heavily optioned compared to German models making a base price difficult to compare.

If any of that is true then a more powerful engine + bigger wheels and tires + flared fenders and beefed up wider suspension + sport differential + M prestige might be worth the $7,682., if you want all of those things.

Sorry but it doesn't work like that doing conversions. It's going to be closer to the price of your fully loaded 235.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

Sorry but it doesn't work like that doing conversions. It's going to be closer to the price of your fully loaded 235.

My calculations are just speculation as I stated. Since the US pricing is not out yet, your estimates are just speculation as well...there is nothing to be sorry about.

The $59,800 M2 price guestimate was for my almost fully loaded M235i configuration but applied to an M2...just to be clear.