[dantm3]

Does any one know if the f80 M3 and m2 have the same transmission specs and clutch? I have driven an F80 for a while and it was modified but clutch felt very heavy even though it was claimed to be stock clutch. I just test drove a friends m2 and the clutch felt lighter and much easier to engage. I ask because I am considering one for daily use, but was leaning towards DCT in an M2, but now I feel the manual M2 is totally daily driveable. Anyone know if there is any spec difference between these 2 car transmissions?

[XRAVE]

Originally Posted by dantm3

Does any one know if the f80 M3 and m2 have the same transmission specs and clutch? I have driven an F80 for a while and it was modified but clutch felt very heavy even though it was claimed to be stock clutch. I just test drove a friends m2 and the clutch felt lighter and much easier to engage. I ask because I am considering one for daily use, but was leaning towards DCT in an M2, but now I feel the manual M2 is totally daily driveable. Anyone know if there is any spec difference between these 2 car transmissions?

I don't think there's been really any advancement with the 6 spd. I've been daily driving a manual since 2010 and the Im glad I went with the DCT. There's something about those hard up shifts and down shifts that just addicting.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by dantm3

Does any one know if the f80 M3 and m2 have the same transmission specs and clutch? I have driven an F80 for a while and it was modified but clutch felt very heavy even though it was claimed to be stock clutch. I just test drove a friends m2 and the clutch felt lighter and much easier to engage. I ask because I am considering one for daily use, but was leaning towards DCT in an M2, but now I feel the manual M2 is totally daily driveable. Anyone know if there is any spec difference between these 2 car transmissions?

Most people complain about how light the clutch is in the F80/F82 also, so maybe the mods or fluid had some effect in the M3 that you drove. I haven't driven a 6MT M3 or M4 so I can't say.

They should be the same as in the M2.

[fun2drv]

The transmissions are the same. The clutch engagement point is different though. I had a '15 M4 and a '17 M2. The first couple of miles were "messy" every time that I switched from one car to the other because of the difference in the clutch engagement points between the cars.

BTW - very light clutches from the factory

[ddk632]

I briefly owned a 6MT 2015 F82 M4 and have had my 6MT 2017 OG M2 for 2 years now. The clutch engagement effort from what I recall is very similar. My thinking is that the F80 you drove may have been an outlier in some way, clutch-effort-wise.

[heavyD^2]

Sometimes there can be variances from car to car, sometimes people remember things a little differently than actuality, and sometimes it's a placebo effect of driving something shiny and new that has to be better in your mind. I saw someone in the M2C forum say that M2C manual feels much improved from the OG M2. Maybe he drove a really bad example of the OG M2 or his memory has deceived him as the OC M2 and M2C transmissions are identical right down to the clutch pedal.

[Project_F87]

Originally Posted by dantm3

Does any one know if the f80 M3 and m2 have the same transmission specs and clutch? I have driven an F80 for a while and it was modified but clutch felt very heavy even though it was claimed to be stock clutch. I just test drove a friends m2 and the clutch felt lighter and much easier to engage. I ask because I am considering one for daily use, but was leaning towards DCT in an M2, but now I feel the manual M2 is totally daily driveable. Anyone know if there is any spec difference between these 2 car transmissions?

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[CosmosMpower]

Should be the same, they drive the same to me between my 2016 M3, 2017 M2 and my new 2019 M2C.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

Sometimes there can be variances from car to car, sometimes people remember things a little differently than actuality, and sometimes it's a placebo effect of driving something shiny and new that has to be better in your mind. I saw someone in the M2C forum say that M2C manual feels much improved from the OG M2. Maybe he drove a really bad example of the OG M2 or his memory has deceived him as the OC M2 and M2C transmissions are identical right down to the clutch pedal.

I second The Placebo Effect. There is no other logical explanation for a part-sharing model BMW uses.

Two separate soups are going to taste the same if they contain identical ingredients, even if they're served in separate dishes.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

Sometimes there can be variances from car to car, sometimes people remember things a little differently than actuality, and sometimes it's a placebo effect of driving something shiny and new that has to be better in your mind. I saw someone in the M2C forum say that M2C manual feels much improved from the OG M2. Maybe he drove a really bad example of the OG M2 or his memory has deceived him as the OC M2 and M2C transmissions are identical right down to the clutch pedal.

Don't have a MT but having read a number of posts about the m2, m2c, m3 and m4 it sounds to me like there is just variance from one BMW MT to the next, so basically it's a roll of the dice on how it feels and how it acts.

[Lake Effect]

I've found that all of my cars shift better, are faster, and the suspension works better, after I wash them.

[XutvJet]

Same part numbers for all components in the M2/M3/M4 ZF 6MT. Even the M240 uses the same exact 6MT, though the flywheel and clutch are different. The same ZF 6MT is used in the M235 too; however, the M2/M3/M4 6MT uses a stronger 1-2 and 2-3 syncro.

[Mint]

Originally Posted by Lake Effect

I've found that all of my cars shift better, are faster, and the suspension works better, after I wash them.

Dude same with me, and after oil changes, suspension just feels better

[dantm3]

Originally Posted by Mint

Dude same with me, and after oil changes, suspension just feels better

Hate to say this... but it's actually true. I literally do feel like my car drives better after a wash and vacuuming the interior..

[seis-speed]

Originally Posted by dantm3

Does any one know if the f80 M3 and m2 have the same transmission specs and clutch? I have driven an F80 for a while and it was modified but clutch felt very heavy even though it was claimed to be stock clutch. I just test drove a friends m2 and the clutch felt lighter and much easier to engage. I ask because I am considering one for daily use, but was leaning towards DCT in an M2, but now I feel the manual M2 is totally daily driveable. Anyone know if there is any spec difference between these 2 car transmissions?

I owned both, and both were a light clutch, so the M3 was possibly faulty?

The only difference was the sitting position in the M2 made the clutch travel seem a little shorter in my seating position, because you sit more upright in the M2.

With rev-matching & hill hold the manual transmission is a breeze to drive and if you are considering it, I would advise to go with the manual transmission.
Good luck!