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      10-01-2019, 04:41 AM   #1
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Very well! But why should I pay 400 or more euros for this emulator when for the same price I can have a BM3 that has these features and many others?
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Very well! But why should I pay 400 or more euros for this emulator when for the same price I can have a BM3 that has these features and many others?
This will be suited for people who do not want to flash their factory ecu for warranty reasons and be happy with an exhaust swap for their OPF based car. This appears to be a canbus based module that simulates the existance of the OPF's + some other canbus functions.

Pretty much MR summed it up in his second paragraph.

"The ECM was also developed to answer the questions from many clients on how to deal with the newly released OPF/GPF-filters in case an exhaust system is being replaced. Customers that opt for an aftermarket exhaust system on their vehicle might run into issues with engine warning messages and limp mode sequences, which could only be dealt with via an ECU/DME mapping, remap or tune. For people who want to replace their exhaust with a new aftermarket cat-back system or a non-homologated slip-on/axle back system and don’t want to ECU/DME tune their car due to warranty concerns, the ECM is the solution since it will deal with any OPF/GPF errors accordingly. OPF-Delete is now a piece of cake and you don’t have to worry losing your factory warranty!"
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You lose your factory warranty replacing the exhaust, this is obvious.
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Very well! But why should I pay 400 or more euros for this emulator when for the same price I can have a BM3 that has these features and many others?
Some people don't want a tune on their cars, nor a performance increase! Lots of people are worried about a tune on their cars and with the current situations of constant updates of your software at your dealer you might want to choose for this solution that is not visible and has no impact on your warranty.

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You lose your factory warranty replacing the exhaust, this is obvious.
That is bullsh*t. All the cars I ever owned had aftermarket systems I never had any dealer complaining about warranty. They all allowed it.

The only thing I did not have is factory warranty on the exhaust. Give me a dealer that tells me that I can't have warranty on something else because I changed the exhaust.

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That is bullsh*t. All the cars I ever owned had aftermarket systems I never had any dealer complaining about warranty. They all allowed it.

The only thing I did not have is factory warranty on the exhaust. Give me a dealer that tells me that I can't have warranty on something else because I changed the exhaust.

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Believe me, here it's better and safer to put back the oem exhaust if you need a warranty service on your powertrain, especially if you replace something like the OPF/KAT with sensors and whatever If instead you need a warranty service for something not related to the powertrain, no problem of course

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https://www.bmw.it/it/fastlane/deale.../BMW_BMWI_BMWM
Believe me, here it's better and safer to put back the oem exhaust if you need a warranty service on your powertrain, especially if you replace something like the OPF/KAT with sensors and whatever If instead you need a warranty service for something not related to the powertrain, no problem of course
Time to move country hahah

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Regarding exhaust valve control, is the override setting retained or do you need to continuously (every 10 minutes) set it like you do with the OBD adapter/app setups?
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Hi. Thanks for the Work and Information.
I've the AK-Motion Display in my M2C and only need the OPF delete
functionality.
Is the Emulator Control Module working if the AK-Motion Display is installed?
With no errors for on both Products ?

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Hi. Thanks for the Work and Information.
I've the AK-Motion Display in my M2C and only need the OPF delete
functionality.
Is the Emulator Control Module working if the AK-Motion Display is installed?
With no errors for on both Products ?

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We haven't tested this set up yet! At this moment I don't have access to a AK-Motion display.

I have an Awron display and we will test both this and that display next to each other over the coming weeks.

Where are you located? If you are willing to help us out, then let me know and I will see if I can hook you up with a box to do some testing.

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Regarding exhaust valve control, is the override setting retained or do you need to continuously (every 10 minutes) set it like you do with the OBD adapter/app setups?
It is retained! You switch it using your cruise control toggle on the steering wheel, and it stays there and doesn't move to another mode until you change it again. I believe it doesn't even change if you switch on or off your car.

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We haven't tested this set up yet! At this moment I don't have access to a AK-Motion display.

I have an Awron display and we will test both this and that display next to each other over the coming weeks.

Where are you located? If you are willing to help us out, then let me know and I will see if I can hook you up with a box to do some testing.

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Hi .
Thank you so much. I'm located near Munich.
If I can help, I will do.
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Thank you so much. I'm located near Munich.
If I can help, I will do.
Drop me a PM please, than we will connect.

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Very well! But why should I pay 400 or more euros for this emulator when for the same price I can have a BM3 that has these features and many others?
with 400 i tune your car and you will have anything you want...far better than bmw
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with 400 i tune your car and you will have anything you want...far better than bmw
Yep that works, just make sure your dealer doesn't find out you tuned it

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Yep that works, just make sure your dealer doesn't find out you tuned it

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of course but every mods will delete the warranty so it is pointless.
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of course but every mods will delete the warranty so it is pointless.
Nope it doesn't... It removes the warranty on that particular part. If you have a dealer that is going to have a discussion about this with you move to another dealer. Give me one dealer that removes your warranty on your parking sensors when you have a new exhaust...

I have had more than 10 years experience with dealers going down that route and I never had issues. The tune is the warranty breaker, also because there is a chance BMW HQ sees it.

I have never ever had a dealer removing my complete car warranty when I replaced an exhaust! Never ever... Especially not when they don't have an option available in their accessory list.

The ECM solves the ECU tuning issue that many dealers see as the deal breaker between warranty lost or not. Not only that! Non-homologated slip-on systems have the tendency of throwing errors and also that the ECMs solves. You can also add valve control to your stock system or slip-on system via ECM... There is a lot more to it

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of course but every mods will delete the warranty so it is pointless.
Nope it doesn't... It removes the warranty on that particular part. If you have a dealer that is going to have a discussion about this with you move to another dealer. Give me one dealer that removes your warranty on your parking sensors when you have a new exhaust...

I have had more than 10 years experience with dealers going down that route and I never had issues. The tune is the warranty breaker, also because there is a chance BMW HQ sees it.

I have never ever had a dealer removing my complete car warranty when I replaced an exhaust! Never ever... Especially not when they don't have an option available in their accessory list.

The ECM solves the ECU tuning issue that many dealers see as the deal breaker between warranty lost or not. Not only that! Non-homologated slip-on systems have the tendency of throwing errors and also that the ECMs solves. You can also add valve control to your stock system or slip-on system via ECM... There is a lot more to it

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Same things applied to the tune. You tune the engine and they don't honor the windshield wipers warranty? C'mon..

Regarding the exhaust everything is good until something expensive happens and it requires a technician opinion. In this case they will find a way to not pay.

You have 10 year experience with dealers...I am a dealer...
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Same things applied to the tune. You tune the engine and they don't honor the windshield wipers warranty? C'mon..

Regarding the exhaust everything is good until something expensive happens and it requires a technician opinion. In this case they will find a way to not pay.

You have 10 year experience with dealers...I am a dealer...
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