12-15-2018, 09:21 AM | #45 |
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Then the clearcoat suffers and might have a different finish after some years? Thinking especially on the AW if there could be some changes in colour.
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12-15-2018, 09:32 AM | #46 |
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I had a white car wrapped for 8 years without any differences in paint finish between covered and uncovered areas. The film was replaced after 8 ears to a newer tech PPF.
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I got quotes from a couple of Xpel recommended installers. All said that there will be a seam on the bumper and tried to sell me other services which I didn't even care about. Anyway that's fine.
Biggest concern I'm having is that I saw few people returning with their cars having PPF issues. The shops also took apart some of the trims to wrap the PPF, which I don't feel comfortable to do. When doing custom installs, they have to carefully use knife close or so sometimes even on the paint. They assured car will not be damaged. This can be avoided using precut film done by a plotter. All the shops I went to are recommended on Xpel's website. I'm thinking to save the $2K for PPF and get an MPE in future instead. But I do understand and respect the opinions who get PPF and love to keep their cars pristine for not only themselves but also future owners.
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I've had custom installs where some pieces are removed; Porsche headlights, etc. You need to find a very good shop with a lot of references. When done the seamless look is amazing but more money of course. There is a balance between tucking film within a tight fit tolerance. There is a proper method for cutting pieces on the car with a razor. A good installer knows the difference between cutting the film without going completely through so the film breaks away. I chose the plotter with Xpel installs on both my current cars. I chose to keep costs down a bit and again the seams are pretty much meaningless to me. And, much referred over chips. I know of at least two installers, one ATL and one NY, where I would trust custom work and cuts on the car.
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Respraying is a pain and it might be hard to match a paint like HS. It also lowers the value a little. |
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I know cause I had a VO 1M and it was impossible to touchup without looking like poo. Those metallic flakes just won't align in the same way and those stone chips areas actually look better without any touch up. In the end I got the panels resprayed by a master painter trained by BMW and then apply PPF. No worries there after. If you car is AW or any other solid paint (which there is none for the M2C) then I would say it's not necessary. |
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Did not skip, I actually did to my previous LBB M2 and did partial front and got a chip 6" above the XPEL.
Went all out on front this time, I track the car and push it hard every time I pull out of the garage, so wanted to protect it. You think you dont get it back, but when I traded my car it looked just like new with 16K miles on it and multiple track events. Car looked immaculate so my trade was good. Just posted this thread, there was another M2 Competition owner that same week. https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24119850
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Good wax and applicators in no way cost $50. You can pay that much if you like. Comparing ceramic coating and PPF is funny.
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Presuming you choose a good installer, the only wonder later could be cost, however that will be long forgotten once you realize how good the paint looks.
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So, yeah, yeah, yeah... I stood pretty firm on "no PPF for me" in another thread
BUT, I guess I'm still thinking about it. Has anyone seen BSM w/PPF? I just can't imagine it's going to look as good as straight up paint. Opinions or experience? Apparently, my decision process isn't related to $$ or rock chips or resale, but rather those 10 minutes a week where a black car is spotless. If PPF introduces some wacky, unnatural reflections, or in case of a partial, an even faintly obvious difference in appearance, it's a no go for me There's also the childhood trauma of having THAT grandmother (rest her sweet soul...) that owned furniture that I swear was both delivered and retired to the alley with plastic covers...I swore I'd never do that, and PPF is tripping that trigger |
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Welcome to Florida, I've had some Bud's with bikes who legit have seen people get on their bike to take photos with it without their permission.
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Buy the good stuff, just did my reorder of wax and it was $47. They arent compared, I just said I do that to my cars and it's enough. Do what you please with your money
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My understanding is that it's caused by the film being heated & stretched inconsistently during application. Perhaps this is a mark of applicator experience, and that I've only seen poor workmanship. You're unlikely to see it in any YouTube video, nor will you get any person with PPF wanting to admit it. Get a junk yard fender partially coated with PPF and then handle it yourself in sunlight. There's no question PPF protects the paint. And in 5 years, the paint will (hopefully) look as new when the film is removed. I say hopefully as I've heard as many negative stories of paint condition after film removal as positive ones. For me, (and this could depends on your region) PPF install and removal is as much, or more than respraying the entire car (the same colour). During that 5 years, living with a couple of stone chips on the front bumper is the lesser evil than the compromised reflectance consistency that (I believe) PPF causes. Another thing (and again, this is region dependant), if I have PPF on my car, and get stone chip through the PPF, there is far less places I can get that seen to with. I live in a town of 6,000 people, but there's 3 panel beaters / paint shops. They will see to the fault straight away. The nearest PPF applicators are 4 hours away. I've also never been able to find a PPF applicator that will guarantee condition of the paint under the film beyond 3 years. It's hard enough getting them to quote on a decommission - again, likely regionally dependant. Using your grandmothers situation. I'm sure she wouldn't of had plastic on the furniture, if she'd paid as much for the plastic as what it would cost to reupholster the furniture. Final point, saw comment about a resprayed car being worth less money. Even a 3/10 paint shop can achieve a BMW OEM paint quality finish. Most will better it. With all that said, I don't discount anyone that sees the value in PPF. It's just (in my opinion) it's not the absolute must-have that it is perceived to be on forums. |
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When I was new to sports cars, I tend to have them filmed immediately. But after a while, I realized that I don't own the cars long enough to justify the extra expense especially since I generally buy used sports cars.
With my more "affordable" M2, I'm skipping PPF and will probably use the budget on a few mods later on. Just curious, do you guys also have clear windshield film installed when you do PPF on your cars? I've noticed that this type of hard film scratches easily leaving ugly streak marks. |
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