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      02-13-2019, 12:19 AM   #67
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      02-13-2019, 09:52 AM   #68
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I almost thought you were joking here. Yes the M2C is rated at 405hp @ 52307000rpms (USA spec), and the point is completely about the "area under the hp vs rpm curve"...
No joke here. To bring a bit of math to the discussion, I would answer that the character of an engine is more in the derivate of its power curve than in its integral. A constant acceleration over the last 2000 rpm is not as fun as an ever increasing push up to the redline, even if it gives similar performances.
Look at the power curves of a GT4 or 911s. Do they become all flat in the last 2000 rpms? Nope...
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No joke here. To bring a bit of math to the discussion, I would answer that the character of an engine is more in the derivate of its power curve than in its integral. A constant acceleration over the last 2000 rpm is not as fun as an ever increasing push up to the redline, even if it gives similar performances.
Look at the power curves of a GT4 or 911s. Do they become all flat in the last 2000 rpms? Nope...
I can confirm that the move from 5000-7500rpms in the M2C is not only fun as heck, but you better have your act together especially with DSC off and in 1st or 2nd gear. I understand the rush to a peak that a normally aspirated beast motor has...I also have an E90 M3 and back-to-back drive them all the time. I was specifically commenting on your comment about the M2C "what the point if the power remains constant from 5250rpm" -- the point is that car is a beast in that power range and accelerates like a crazy. Area under the power curves matters and matter a lot. The M2C pulls strongly well past 7k rpms and actually feels more like a normally aspirated motor than the N55.
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These aren't M cars of the past....the redline gets lower and lower with just about every new introduction and emission regulation.

I don't get it. These are turbo cars not NA. I've driven my share of rev happy cars and for me, revving out an engine is no fun if there isn't any thrust felt.

It's more torque for the pork! These cars are getting crazy hefty!

Imo that is more exhilarating on a day to day basis.
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These threads are funny, most the people that own these cars never even approach 75% of the full potential regardless of which model they own.
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These threads are funny, most the people that own these cars never even approach 75% of the full potential regardless of which model they own.
Bingo, which is why I prefer the down low to the top end...
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These threads are funny, most the people that own these cars never even approach 75% of the full potential regardless of which model they own.
Brah, I can buy a $50 tune, make it pump out 8000rwhp and then I can use my supervisor driving skills and drive the car in straight line.
100% powah all the time. Come at me bro.
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