[gsrbri]

Originally Posted by Yellowflash21

Sorry OP but anyway good job mate, but personally I can't see the $ = satisfaction with this build.
It has same weight as stock car, better suspension, way bigger IC without a remap.

But what about brakes upgrade as this was advertised as clubsport build.

The factory brakes, with race pads, are fairly adequate on-track - at least in my experience. I'm sure the calipers will turn green from the heat. Ideally, I'd prefer to add the AP Racing kit and the rear wasn't available as I was finishing the build. I wanted to get the car back and drive it, so brakes are a future upgrade, now that both F/R AP Racing BBK is available.

The car weighs less than stock, the tiny factory intercooler can't handle track duty, and safety on-track was the primary objective.

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by kerm1t

That's why you never buy from ind. up charges like crazy

Sometimes it's not a choice but I usually avoid them

[TT1351]

ECS has them including mounting brackets for $13449.95 ships in april

[Lorde]

Originally Posted by TT1351

ECS has them including mounting brackets for $13449.95 ships in april

Or ships never.

[Nate@IND]

Originally Posted by wdeerfield

That's got quite the IND tax as they are $4500 each.

https://www.schmiedmann.com/en/product/e442617-new

That’s the price for the seat only. If you can obtain the correct floor mounts they are around 2900 Euros each.

[Nate@IND]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

That's normal for IND, everything they sell has a hefty upcharge (OEM parts) and especially their painted ones

Please provide a link to an OEM part that has a “hefty” upcharge and we will correct the price right now.

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by Nate@IND

Please provide a link to an OEM part that has a “hefty” upcharge and we will correct the price right now.

Relative to other OEM parts suppliers yes.

in the context used $5k per seat ($10k total) vs $17k for both is a prime example.

Another would be the OEM wheel cap inserts 36-12-2-455-268 self level, $99 on your site, $74 elsewhere as seen below

https://www.bmwpartswholesale.com/oe...55-36122455268

https://www.schmiedmann.com/en/produ...6-12-2-455-268

a 26% markup is quite large even though the true dollar amount is not. I have nothing against IND having spent $1200 at your store for my X5. In fact, I reached out to you guys a while ago to inquire about forum discounts which I've seen people get and never heard back, I still placed my order. It's not about the money, rather overpaying for items just because someone has them

[Nate@IND]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

Relative to other OEM parts suppliers yes.

in the context used $5k per seat ($10k total) vs $17k for both is a prime example.

Another would be the OEM wheel cap inserts 36-12-2-455-268 self level, $99 on your site, $74 elsewhere as seen below

https://www.bmwpartswholesale.com/oe...55-36122455268

https://www.schmiedmann.com/en/produ...6-12-2-455-268

a 26% markup is quite large even though the true dollar amount is not. I have nothing against IND having spent $1200 at your store for my X5. In fact, I reached out to you guys a while ago to inquire about forum discounts which I've seen people get and never heard back, I still placed my order. It's not about the money, rather overpaying for items just because someone has them

None of the links posted above show the official BMW list price or site. In fact, one link is technically a “gray market”.

36-12-2-455-268 = $99.00 https://www.shopbmwusa.com/PRODUCT/6...G-CENTER-CAPS/

As you can see the official retail is $99.00 per BMW and you have not provide a link with any evidence that we charge a “hefty” premium.

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by Nate@IND

None of the links posted above show the official BMW list price or site. In fact, one link is technically a “gray market”.

36-12-2-455-268 = $99.00 https://www.shopbmwusa.com/PRODUCT/6...G-CENTER-CAPS/

As you can see the official retail is $99.00 per BMW and you have not provide a link with any evidence that we charge a “hefty” premium.

There's a difference between MSRP and market price. Of course you cans l at MSRP, just like a dealer can try selling a car for MSRP. The OPs post isn't the place this sort of discussion. If you'd like to continue having a conversation I'd happily do some in a more appropriate place of your choosing.

[48Laws]

Did the M2 come with the seats? Lol

[ProperBimmer]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

There's a difference between MSRP and market price. Of course you cans l at MSRP, just like a dealer can try selling a car for MSRP. The OPs post isn't the place this sort of discussion. If you'd like to continue having a conversation I'd happily do some in a more appropriate place of your choosing.

Yes!!! Thank you for challenging these guys and speaking up. Long overdue.

[dezzracer]

Originally Posted by gsrbri

Honestly, I really believe seats make the car and also for track work, the reduced padding for butt yaw detection and 6pt belt capability, are really important.

I wanted to go as close as possible to what the factory would do. The GTS Euro seats are beautifully-made, very safe, and insanely light (15 lbs).

I was driving her around today and the car is balanced (fast, sharp, planted) and the N55 just sounds awesome.

Glad I snagged one of these 👍

Agree with all that but...damn $😳

[wdeerfield]

Originally Posted by Nate@IND

That’s the price for the seat only. If you can obtain the correct floor mounts they are around 2900 Euros each.

so then you are still 3k high https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-4...ts-seats-pair/

[Nate@IND]

Originally Posted by wdeerfield

so then you are still 3k high https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-4...ts-seats-pair/

That set includes the side mounts but does not include the bottom Motorsport floor mounts. We would be close to that price if we removed the floor mounts. At IND I have no issue with negative feedback from customer because it helps us as a company but all of the seat links that have been added to this thread are missing the most important hardware that allows you to bolt them into the car. True you could go with aftermarket Recaro floor mounts but the package IND is offering is 100% OEM from BMW M.

[gsrbri]

Originally Posted by Nate@IND

That set includes the side mounts but does not include the bottom Motorsport floor mounts. We would be close to that price if we removed the floor mounts. At IND I have no issue with negative feedback from customer because it helps us as a company but all of the seat links that have been added to this thread are missing the most important hardware that allows you to bolt them into the car. True you could go with aftermarket Recaro floor mounts but the package IND is offering is 100% OEM from BMW M.

The fact they are a bolt-in BMW factory seat that literally requires zero modification other than S/W coding, the labor savings alone and safety aspects are worth it.

[Nate@IND]

Originally Posted by gsrbri

The fact they are a bolt-in BMW factory seat that literally requires zero modification other than S/W coding, the labor savings alone and safety aspects are worth it.

Glad to hear you are enjoying the seats. Sorry for all of the post in this thread

[TT1351]

Originally Posted by Nate@IND

That set includes the side mounts but does not include the bottom Motorsport floor mounts. We would be close to that price if we removed the floor mounts. At IND I have no issue with negative feedback from customer because it helps us as a company but all of the seat links that have been added to this thread are missing the most important hardware that allows you to bolt them into the car. True you could go with aftermarket Recaro floor mounts but the package IND is offering is 100% OEM from BMW M.

I thought the seat mounts bolt to floor mounts that came with the car. Is this true in GTS, and that all other M cars that this seat fits requires a special floor mount? TIA