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It depends on a couple different circumstances. We recently had a handful of orders get placed from Black Friday/Cyber Monday, then the holidays which pushed our lead times back a little. But we are consistently within a 2-3 week time frame which is still one of the fastest in the industry!
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Great, thanks for the info.
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This setup sounds like a good option for people like me who don't want to venture too far into the mod world but want some additional power. Has anyone gotten pushback from their dealer on the catted downpipe or dinantronics sport? I've seen comments on here that it's dealer by dealer, but are people finding that these two items are generally allowed subject to the "if we can trace an issue to the mod then you'll have a problem" disclaimer? I ordered the fabspeed catted downpipe without running it by my dealer, so I'm a little worried that I could have a problem. I'm assuming the downpipe is more likely to be a problem with the dealer than the dinan tuner box. My plan is to talk to the dealer about installing this setup when I take the car in for the break in service. Is the general consensus that this setup is pretty safe for the car if these are the only mods you install? Bit of a newb on mods, so thanks in advance for any feedback.
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01-26-2017, 09:04 AM | #76 | |
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I previously worked for my BMW dealership when I got my car. I installed our Sport Cat Downpipe and had multiple service appointments for oil changes, inspection, etc. Not once did my service adviser mention the downpipe or the Muffler Bypass Exhaust. Quite frankly, everyone commented on how awesome the car sounded. I honestly do not think you will have any issues. If anything, the dealer will be more concerned with the software upgrades than the hardware upgrades. Check your PMs! We can chat more if you would like! |
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Agreed. That being said, the Dinan sport tuner is about as safe a tune one can do (without a matching warranty). They've been in the business since forever and they perform overly extensive R&D on all of their products.
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It's not so much the dealer I worry about as BMW - if my motor goes tits up and I bring it to the dealer for a warranty claim, I'm sure the mother ship will be sending a rep to try & figure out why.
I don't see the DP as any real risk to cause a meltdown, but I don't want to be out of pocket for a huge bill because Heinrich didn't torque something down properly and BMW decides to blame my aftermarket part for letting all the smoke out of my engine. |
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Find yourself a reputable shop. A downpipe installation is "relatively" easy to any skilled tech...no cutting/splicing/welding, simple bolt-on procedure like a cat-back.
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I'm not worried about the installation difficulty (I've installed DP's before, usually a no-brainer) or the likelihood that the DP would be the cause of an issue...only that it would be (incorrectly) blamed if something unrelated caused an issue.
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The dealership/BMWNA has to prove that a certain component, in this case a DP, caused the particular problem. They can't just willy nilly say "your rear diff is busted. You have an aftermarket downpipe. That's the cause."
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https://www.sema.org/sema-enews/2011...ermarket-parts Then read the bulletin itself: https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/article...ne-maintenance Now, it is true that replacing a downpipe with one that is separately illegal because of emissions regs is not ok--that should not be controversial. But that is a different issue, and does not relieve the manufacturer of the burden to show that a downstream problem was caused by an aftermarket part, and not something else. Moreover, there are several kinds of aftermarket modifications that are not in and of themselves illegal. In the case of those, as well, the burden lies with the manufacturer to prove causation before it can deny coverage. The shops I work with, at least, understand this issue very well. Last edited by BruceM; 01-27-2017 at 12:21 PM.. |
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Welp, went to the dealer with my setup for an oil change. Key read, saw the paperwork and there was no sign of it registering anything weird. No one said poo about my DP or the Sport tuner. And got to crush my buddies M3 at lunch. All is good in the M2 mod world.
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I think this is the second time you mentioned beating your friend's F80. Even with the sport tuner and DP, he should still be up ~40 whp. Just curious, is he 6MT and you DCT or are you just a better driver, or what?
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The dyno of the sport tune only, showed 408lbft to the wheels. I also have a DP installed on top of that. 367whp for the sport tune only, maybe i got an extra 15hp at the top with the DP? auf is doing a dyno run when he gets to Fabspeed. I am very interested to see that one. Again, the car showed a big difference when I put the DP on. It was 1,000 miles after my sport tune went in. His car is stock. If hes running 395hp to the wheels and 400lbft to the wheels, makes sense to me they would be very very close in overall speed. And I need to add, having a bunch of seat time in both now, I have ZERO want for the S55. It is nowhere near as smooth, boost comes in faster and it feels more NA in its delivery then the S55. Thats my experience. Before the tune and now especially the way its set up. Last edited by RPM2-85; 01-26-2017 at 05:57 PM.. |
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And yes, while the S55 is way more tunable, it doesn't do much for me in stock form. I'd much rather have a modded N55 over it.
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