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      04-27-2015, 05:06 PM   #1
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340i engine and power output posted - similar database entry for M2?

Don't you think it's likely that this same system has some F87 entries in it:

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1119669

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So roughly 322 hp assuming that listing is in kW. Makes sense. I do wonder if the M2 values are listed yet. I assume we would know them by now if they were in there.
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240 kW = 326 hp (metric)

About the forthcoming 340i:
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1119669
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Don't you think it's likely that this same system has some F87 entries in it?
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I think this is an interesting question, but is more specific to the (M)240i - I mean, what amount of BHP is that going to have?

340/440i - 321 BHP stock
M235i - 321 BHP
M240i - 340 BHP?
M2 - 365/370 BHP?

BMW has a lot of cars that are similar in BHP, but very different in personality - it will be fun to see how they position everything within the lineup.
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I guess one question to ask is ... what system is this? And who has access to it?

Then is the car listed a prototype or is it an early-production/press car? If it's a press car then perhaps there would be no M240i or M2 entries quite yet but this may be a good place to source that info closer to release time.

Also, there are apparently some photos out there that show M2 prototype VIN numbers, I wonder if someone could search this system using those? Does anyone know where the photos are at?
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I guess one question to ask is ... what system is this? And who has access to it?

Then is the car listed a prototype or is it an early-production/press car? If it's a press car then perhaps there would be no M240i or M2 entries quite yet but this may be a good place to source that info closer to release time.

Also, there are apparently some photos out there that show M2 prototype VIN numbers, I wonder if someone could search this system using those? Does anyone know where the photos are at?
That same person already has. How else would we have known it was an N55? The same guy has already mentioned when SOP will be and what engine it will have (as well as LED headlights not being available, at least at the start).

That's why I couldn't help but roll my eyes when people are saying detuned S55 or S58 (whatever the hell that would even be).
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That same person already has. How else would we have known it was an N55? The same guy has already mentioned when SOP will be and what engine it will have (as well as LED headlights not being available, at least at the start).

That's why I couldn't help but roll my eyes when people are saying detuned S55 or S58 (whatever the hell that would even be).
I think we may need to find another person with access to this system if we want to get this information anytime soon. And fair enough on the S55 skepticism, I'm dropping that from my vocabulary. I guess the only thing to be garnered from this then is the final HP numbers but maybe that's not even set in stone quite yet.
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I think this is an interesting question, but is more specific to the (M)240i - I mean, what amount of BHP is that going to have?

340/440i - 321 BHP stock
M235i - 321 BHP
M240i - 340 BHP?
M2 - 365/370 BHP?

BMW has a lot of cars that are similar in BHP, but very different in personality - it will be fun to see how they position everything within the lineup.
I would be surprised if the M240i is given more power than a 340i/440i as, to me, an M235i is what would have been a 235i M-Sport before marketing and 135i M-Sport/335 M-Sport models did not get more power. The 135is did. My guess is they would want to preserve the gap. Horsepower is just one of so many variable that make up a cars driving personality. I look forward to the positioning also, as Scott26's hints have been there will be a significant difference a la 135i to 1M.
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I think this is an interesting question, but is more specific to the (M)240i - I mean, what amount of BHP is that going to have?

340/440i - 321 BHP stock
M235i - 321 BHP
M240i - 340 BHP?
M2 - 365/370 BHP?

BMW has a lot of cars that are similar in BHP, but very different in personality - it will be fun to see how they position everything within the lineup.
I would be surprised if the M240i is given more power than a 340i/440i as, to me, an M235i is what would have been a 235i M-Sport before marketing and 135i M-Sport/335 M-Sport models did not get more power. The 135is did. My guess is they would want to preserve the gap. Horsepower is just one of so many variable that make up a cars driving personality. I look forward to the positioning also, as Scott26's hints have been there will be a significant difference a la 135i to 1M.
M235 are like the old 135 Is
Not M Sport 135

The M performance vehicles which is what the M235 is have and always will have more HP, better brakes, tires, cooling etc than the regular series cars.
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I would be surprised if the M240i is given more power than a 340i/440i as, to me, an M235i is what would have been a 235i M-Sport before marketing and 135i M-Sport/335 M-Sport models did not get more power. The 135is did. My guess is they would want to preserve the gap. Horsepower is just one of so many variable that make up a cars driving personality. I look forward to the positioning also, as Scott26's hints have been there will be a significant difference a la 135i to 1M.
The M235 has more power than a 335/435 so your statement makes zero sense. In also makes zero sense because you don't understand the M Performance brand, just my opinion. Also I don't understand your 135 statement because the 1M did not have more horsepower than the IS (M Performance) so basically I don't agree with anything you said.
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The M235 has more power than a 335/435 so your statement makes zero sense. In also makes zero sense because you don't understand the M Performance brand, just my opinion. Also I don't understand your 135 statement because the 1M did not have more horsepower than the IS (M Performance) so basically I don't agree with anything you said.
And basically you are wrong.
The 135is had 240kw and 450nm rated. (normal 225kw and 400nm now with BMW ppk2 slapped on it)
The 1M had 250kw and 500nm (with overboost function)

The m235i had 15kw more than the 335i/435i yes. You are correct there.
What was said by bim2mer is actually correct considering regarding the m235i and the 135i M-Sport. Same thing that, only M Sport was an Option on the 135i which only gave you a different roof lining, steering wheel and gear knob (manual) to the normal exclusive 135i.
So basically, you are basically pretty wrong. Basically. Understand? Basically. Understood.
I agree, I doubt the 240i will have more power (rated). Hell its listed there, in KW right next to 'power'. 240. Which is what the m235i currently has. Should be the same as the 340i listed above.
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