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However, I may consider that if I can get $58K OTD
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Heck, it already weighs as much as a camaro. Might as well go with the sunroof. haha
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02-21-2020, 12:51 PM | #92 | ||
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BMW has been putting moonroofs in M cars since it's inception. Don't listen to the naysayers, get what you desire. A moonroof won't make any overall difference to a vehicle already weighting 3,600lbs. Cool video but excuse the '80s porno music: |
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02-21-2020, 12:55 PM | #93 |
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I suppose. The M2, while there to entice the younger 2 series buyer, is priced too high for most young people. So does it really become a niche car for older guys who can afford it and really want a great drivers car?
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I feel like 'older' car guys who prefer the E36 era to the current bloated GT cars the M3/4 have become are the core demo for the M2.
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I personally love sunroofs and use them all the time. But for some reason I couldn't do it for the M2, especially with HS. I didnt want to break up that roof line and how it comes in low over the windshield, otherwise enjoy the moonroof.
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02-21-2020, 01:00 PM | #96 | |
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For some strange reason, people love getting married and having a bunch of annoying kids, so a small vehicle would not support that typical demographic. SVU sells more than coupes nowadays by a substantial margin.. https://carbuzz.com/news/mercedes-be...cars-this-year |
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I don't want one on my nimble little track/twisty backroad weapon. But I don't begrudge anyone who wants one on their M car, 2 or otherwise. |
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02-21-2020, 01:19 PM | #99 | ||
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When a vehicle is greenlit for production, BMW has a target demographic in mind. I wrote a Marketing Plan on BMW in college and studied their modus operandi. At the time, the 3 series was marketed to the yuppies, now the M2 has taken that place. I'm glad you appreciate your car and I'm not judging but that's just the way it is. I have several interviews to back this up, if you believe I'm pulling this out of thin air. |
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02-21-2020, 01:22 PM | #100 |
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One thing about sunroofs, other than it being a noisemaker and weight in about the worst possible place on a car?
Headroom. You tend to lose 1.5-2" of headroom with a sunroof. Not with the roof itself, but with the headliner bulge that runs all the way around the roof. I've got short legs and a tall (37.5") torso (thanks, genetics)-- and it's VERY rare to find a car with a sunroof that I can fit in. Especially with electric seats, since the rails tend to be a bit higher than a manual seat. So, if you're fairly tall (or at least have a tall torso), I'd *really* recommend sitting in the car before you buy. Just my 0.02. R. |
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40% of buyers are older than 38, so the M2 really speaks to a wide demographic. Around here, all the M2s I've seen have been driven by 60+ yr olds |
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02-21-2020, 01:53 PM | #102 | ||
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Anyways, let's just leave it here before my point gets misconstrued. Like is said, I'm glad you choose an M2C and kept the demand going. Enjoy |
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Oh, I'm not arguing, nor care really what the target demographic is. I wont feel hurt if young people are buying M2s...LOL. Was just adding to the discussion with a data point (or points)
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02-21-2020, 02:58 PM | #104 | ||
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There are other colors on the 2 series assembly line and adaptive suspension so it doesn't seem like it's too much trouble for them to do that but who knows. For MY20 they added slightly tinted tail lights that are impossible to notice. |
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That's pretty much the "big carrot" on the M2CS. The difference between the C and CS is already a lot closer than BMW would probably like. I don't see them tightening that gap any more. Of course I could be wrong. And if I am, I'll be *pissed*, since I decided to pop for the '20 instead of the '21! R. |
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I do think certain things that were options on the 20' will be bundled as standard and included in a slight up-tick in base price. For example, executive package, ///M steering wheel and MPE. Just presented as example, in case BMW is listening Regarding the coveted adaptive suspension . . . that is standard on M2CS as far as I know, so perhaps BMW will make it an option on 21' M2C? I mean, it is already built for the M2 chassis, so if someone wants to pay for it, why not let them? Seriously, if the suspension is so important to so many, seems to me BMW could sell a shit-load of 21' M2C if they simply made it an option at a cost. There is nothing they need to do in terms of engineering or anything. The suspension is designed for the chassis and ready to go. Let the consumer ring the cash register to BMW accountants delight. Win-win! ///AVM |
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I suspect it is probably way overrated for daily/spirited driving that most use their M2C? Regardless, consumers tend to want what they do not have, even if they do not need it. ///AVM Last edited by ///AVM; 02-21-2020 at 06:25 PM.. |
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02-21-2020, 06:46 PM | #109 | |
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It won't make an initial jarring change because that's not how it typically works but having dampers that can be electronically manipulated does help with the vehicle's overall handing, especially pitch and body roll.. |
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On the other hand.....
No adaptive suspension means less electronic widgets to break. And? That's a *good* thing. R. |
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