M2 Daytime Instrument Lighting issue

Dabozo · 12-23-2018, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupes

Hey guys, just fixed this problem lots of you have and it was really easy.

Can't imagine why there would be anything else I would need to say or share, so signing off for now!

what's the process?
A solution is being presented for a BIG problem for pre lci cars (for seemingly a fraction of the cost of a cluster retrofit)...lots of us would appreciate more details.

MagnusT · 12-23-2018, 04:52 PM

For details check with this guy:

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Originally Posted by MagnusT

Some microsmall soldering in the cluster.

BR diagnostics knows how to do it https://www.facebook.com/BRDiagnosticsRetrofits/

I guess he's here on bimmerpost but don't know his nick here.

akkando · 12-23-2018, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnusT

Okay, sorry for telling you about someone that can fix the problem?

Your first post is titled you have a solution to a problem everyone else has and then you just say it's fixed and then give no info.

MagnusT · 12-23-2018, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by akkando

Your first post is titled you have a solution to a problem everyone else has and then you just say it's fixed and then give no info.

The info you want is in my second post in the thread. So I really don't see the problem. Really sorry for trying to help...

MagnusT · 12-23-2018, 06:09 PM

Edited my first post

NYC Bimmer · 12-23-2018, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Transfer

haha thread fail

+1

This might be the most useless thread on earth. 0 information.

MR_M2 · 12-23-2018, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupes

Hey guys, just fixed this problem lots of you have and it was really easy.

Can't imagine why there would be anything else I would need to say or share, so signing off for now!

ROFL! Good one!!

MagnusT · 12-24-2018, 01:49 AM

Okay, so I started the thread stupid. But now you know there's a fix. And who can fix it for you.

Merry Christmas everyone

SW19 · 12-24-2018, 04:26 PM

LOL,this thread is hilarious.Why not just post a pic of what you did.This gauge issue isn’t even that big of a deal.There are very few times in certain lighting situations when the gauges get hard to read.They look much better than the LCI gauges and i’m glad that my car has them.Happy Holidays Everyone.

Poochie · 12-24-2018, 05:16 PM

As far as I recalled, there is not way to code the backlight to stay on, independent of the headlights.. I searched extensively and I asked some veteran coders here and they confirmed this.

You can decode the light sensor, so your cluster would fooled into believing it's always nighttime and remain on but that would mean you're headlights will always be on, also.

Now, if this dude is making physical alterations to the cluster and rewiring it's plumbing, that might work, separately from the headlight.. But who's is really going to deal with the downtime or risk of no cluster.

D22M2 · 12-24-2018, 05:55 PM

Hmm - 12 months since I’ve owned my pre-LCI M2 - not once have I not been able to see the gauge cluster clearly (and I’m farsighted)

Dabozo · 12-24-2018, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by D22M2

Hmm - 12 months since I've owned my pre-LCI M2 - not once have I not been able to see the gauge cluster clearly (and I'm farsighted)

Pre lci cluster is a joke. Hard to see, no oil temp gauge...on a bmw...seriously? I have owned some shit cars in the past and not one did I everhave difficulty seeing the gauges. Unacceptable.

McGary911 · 12-28-2018, 08:57 AM

Any info on that facebook link? I don't do FB and can't see it. It sounds like they're removing the cluster and soldering in a jumper between the backlighting and something that stays powered on for a minute or 2 after you turn off the car...the "invisible" multi function graphic display in the lower right, maybe?

I'd love to know the fix. I'm pretty good with a soldering iron and might be willing to give it a shot.

It's not often that the display is washed out but when it is, it sure is annoying.

trey100 · 12-28-2018, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dabozo

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Originally Posted by D22M2

Hmm - 12 months since I've owned my pre-LCI M2 - not once have I not been able to see the gauge cluster clearly (and I'm farsighted)

Agree. Pre lci cluster is a joke. Hard to see, no oil temp gauge...on a bmw...seriously? I have owned some shit cars in the past and not one did I everhave difficulty seeing the gauges. Unacceptable.

I'm pretty sure he is saying the opposite.

Dabozo · 12-28-2018, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by trey100

I'm pretty sure he is saying the opposite.

lol...maybe im far sighted too! Thank you. ive edited my post

. I however find it hard to believe anyone claiming they have never had a hard time seeing the gauges...

Artemis · 12-28-2018, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RAM_E90_F87

How?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dabozo

what's the process?
A solution is being presented for a BIG problem for pre lci cars (for seemingly a fraction of the cost of a cluster retrofit)...lots of us would appreciate more details.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dabozo

I however find it hard to believe anyone claiming they have never had a hard time seeing the gauges...

Aloha Joe · 12-28-2018, 06:21 PM

Artemis, Not sure my wife would approve of that mod

pruettfan · 12-28-2018, 11:05 PM

I never look at the analog speedometer, just use the digital display. Personally I don't understand why any manufacture still uses an dial type display at all. Nothing is clearer than a digital display of the speed. Wish BMW had a larger display for digital information.

Poochie · 12-29-2018, 07:38 AM

I believe this thread list a possible solution to the hard-to-see Pre-LCI instrument cluster..

The fix is to add LED bulbs to mimic a backlit..

:

pre-LCI gauge cluster mod https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1567158

BMW F30 Instrument Cluster Color https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1138945

MZWIE · 12-29-2018, 08:39 AM

I never look at the speedometer...

garrito_burrito_ · 12-29-2018, 12:41 PM

This is so NOT a real issue, and I’m VERY thankful my car has the pre lci set up. I hate the fake screen ones. If you can’t see well enough to see them, please dont drive on public roads.

Dabozo · 12-29-2018, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by garrito_burrito_

This is so NOT a real issue, and I'm VERY thankful my car has the pre lci set up. I hate the fake screen ones. If you can't see well enough to see them, please dont drive on public roads.

Ya ok buddy. If it wasn't such an issue, why did bmw feel the need to add proper lighting for day time driving in the lci m2? Not to mention the countless members on here that have complained about this issue.

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SW19 Colonel 2456 Rep 2,714 Posts Drives: 2016 Alpine White M2 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Wimbledon iTrader: (0)	LOL,this thread is hilarious.Why not just post a pic of what you did.This gauge issue isn’t even that big of a deal.There are very few times in certain lighting situations when the gauges get hard to read.They look much better than the LCI gauges and i’m glad that my car has them.Happy Holidays Everyone.
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Poochie Luxury at the redline :) 9105 Rep 7,563 Posts Drives: 2016 M2 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NYC iTrader: (3)	As far as I recalled, there is not way to code the backlight to stay on, independent of the headlights.. I searched extensively and I asked some veteran coders here and they confirmed this. You can decode the light sensor, so your cluster would fooled into believing it's always nighttime and remain on but that would mean you're headlights will always be on, also. Now, if this dude is making physical alterations to the cluster and rewiring it's plumbing, that might work, separately from the headlight.. But who's is really going to deal with the downtime or risk of no cluster.
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D22M2 Captain 1374 Rep 789 Posts Drives: Not a real M Car Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Dublin , CA iTrader: (0)	Hmm - 12 months since I’ve owned my pre-LCI M2 - not once have I not been able to see the gauge cluster clearly (and I’m farsighted)
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McGary911 Captain 472 Rep 682 Posts Drives: 2017 LBB M2 DCT Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: St Johns, FL iTrader: (0)	Any info on that facebook link? I don't do FB and can't see it. It sounds like they're removing the cluster and soldering in a jumper between the backlighting and something that stays powered on for a minute or 2 after you turn off the car...the "invisible" multi function graphic display in the lower right, maybe? I'd love to know the fix. I'm pretty good with a soldering iron and might be willing to give it a shot. It's not often that the display is washed out but when it is, it sure is annoying. __________________ 2004 E46 ///M3 SMG Convertible Carbon Blk\Imola 2017 LBB ///M2 DCT 2013 Porsche Boxster S
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