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      12-28-2020, 06:20 AM   #1
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Is anyone planning on tracking their CS? If so, and you got CCB’s, will you be tracking with the CCB’s or switch out to steelies for the track.

Does anyone know if it’s just a rotor and pad replacement to go from ccb <-> steel?

I heavily tracked my gt3 and the steel and pccb rotor and pad size were identical so I just swapped my rotor and pad and kept the pccb on the shelf as expensive paper weight for years. The caliper was just a different paint color with no other difference between the steel and ceramic caliper.

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Is anyone planning on tracking their CS? If so, and you got CCB’s, will you be tracking with the CCB’s or switch out to steelies for the track.

Does anyone know if it’s just a rotor and pad replacement to go from ccb <-> steel?

I heavily tracked my gt3 and the steel and pccb rotor and pad size were identical so I just swapped my rotor and pad and kept the pccb on the shelf as expensive paper weight for years. The caliper was just a different paint color with no other difference between the steel and ceramic caliper.

Thx!!
Wait, what? You bought CCB's but won't use them on the track? Curious why you spent all that extra money? I'm pretty sure the CCB's are great for track use.
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Wait, what? You bought CCB's but won't use them on the track? Curious why you spent all that extra money? I'm pretty sure the CCB's are great for track use.
Operating cost of tracking PCCB in the Porsche world is too expensive for my liking. I was doing 15+ weekends a year with the gt3.

I assume the CCB would wear the same and have the same high operating cost.

Also, most WEC/IMSA teams actually don’t run ceramics on their GT cars. (Not sure if this is a rule thing or if its managing a some ludicrous high budget)
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Is anyone planning on tracking their CS? If so, and you got CCB's, will you be tracking with the CCB's or switch out to steelies for the track.

Does anyone know if it's just a rotor and pad replacement to go from ccb <-> steel?

I heavily tracked my gt3 and the steel and pccb rotor and pad size were identical so I just swapped my rotor and pad and kept the pccb on the shelf as expensive paper weight for years. The caliper was just a different paint color with no other difference between the steel and ceramic caliper.

Thx!!
Wait, what? You bought CCB's but won't use them on the track? Curious why you spent all that extra money? I'm pretty sure the CCB's are great for track use.
Unless you're made of money, running CCBs on track is extremely expensive.

Yes, they work well, but the operating costs are insane.
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I went with steel brakes because I plan to eventually track the CS when my 1M is ready to retire (I believe it is still in its adolescence). I also got DCT so my left foot can retire with the 1M.

I would still be curious about the answer to the OP's question . . . does a rotor and pad swap (EASY) work, or would the calipers (MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS) need to be changed also? Anyone know?
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Some good info in this thread: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1749568
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Wait, what? You bought CCB's but won't use them on the track? Curious why you spent all that extra money? I'm pretty sure the CCB's are great for track use.
Operating cost of tracking PCCB in the Porsche world is too expensive for my liking. I was doing 15+ weekends a year with the gt3.

I assume the CCB would wear the same and have the same high operating cost.

Also, most WEC/IMSA teams actually don’t run ceramics on their GT cars. (Not sure if this is a rule thing or if its managing a some ludicrous high budget)
I know all this(reason I got steel brakes) and based on your knowledge level I assume you did too. So why did you do CCB's? Just curious cause I thought about them too!
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I know all this(reason I got steel brakes) and based on your knowledge level I assume you did too. So why did you do CCB's? Just curious cause I thought about them too!
I haven't done CCB's (yet). Still in final selection of the car I'm getting and was just wondering what the story was with CCB <-> Steel fitment. If they are truly swappable from a pads/rotor perspective, then the CCBs can make sense for me long term (when the car retires from the track etc). But if fitment isn't the same and calipers needs to be swapped, then I will for sure go the steel route.
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This should help those with CCBs, there is a brake duct baking plate in the wheel well you can remove to allow more airflow.

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I went with steel brakes because I plan to eventually track the CS when my 1M is ready to retire (I believe it is still in its adolescence). I also got DCT so my left foot can retire with the 1M.

I would still be curious about the answer to the OP's question . . . does a rotor and pad swap (EASY) work, or would the calipers (MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS) need to be changed also? Anyone know?
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This should help those with CCBs, there is a brake duct baking plate in the wheel well you can remove to allow more airflow.

Great find and very helpful. I plan to switch put the fluid and run them in the track. Why not. You bought them, and running 3-4 track days a year on them probably shortens the life from 80k miles to 50k .. so far I haven’t kept one long enough to find out. If you do reach 50k miles you hopefully have saved enough to replace them.
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I went with steel brakes because I plan to eventually track the CS when my 1M is ready to retire (I believe it is still in its adolescence). I also got DCT so my left foot can retire with the 1M.

I would still be curious about the answer to the OP's question . . . does a rotor and pad swap (EASY) work, or would the calipers (MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS) need to be changed also? Anyone know?
You can swap to steel rotors and pads without changing calipers.
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