[dgm3]

Originally Posted by Davil

I don't have a single rattle on my 2018 M2C and LOVE the analog dials to the same level that I dislike BMWs current gauge cluster.

Go figure...My M2C, also an 2018, has a lot of rattles (center console, passenger seat, passenger door, glove box), arguably more pronounced in the winter season. One of the worst car that I have owned in that respect ... even worse than my 2003 Alfa Romeo 156 .

[ASAP]

I have a 2020, no rattles here at all...

[Hulk Smash]

Originally Posted by Jimjamz

Thank you. I thought I must be going crazy. My wife's M235i had a digital Speedo option through the stalk button and I was thinking surely they didn't deprecate that in the M2. I'll know for sure in a few weeks but if any owners can confirm that would be great.

I can confirm, the M2CS does have a digital speedo. Just press the BC button twice to display it.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Hedoniste

There is a diff between the M3/4 Comp (6.5 liters) and M3/4 CS (7 liters) and I think that the M2 CS has the same oil capacity than M3/4 CS.

You're right, now I remember, it was the M4CS that has the 7 liter pan. I remember that there was an issue with The M4 CS tune loaded on the M2C. They had to alter it for the 6.5 liter pan. I guess soon enough all the M2CS parts will be listed on Real OEM and we can find out once and for all which parts are different.

Edit: Could you check the info in your M2CS to check what BMW says is the oil capacity?

[Hedoniste]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

You're right, now I remember, it was the M4CS that has the 7 liter pan. I remember that there was an issue with The M4 CS tune loaded on the M2C. They had to alter it for the 6.5 liter pan. I guess soon enough all the M2CS parts will be listed on Real OEM and we can find out once and for all which parts are different.

Edit: Could you check the info in your M2CS to check what BMW says is the oil capacity?

I will do it yes 👍

[Hulk Smash]

Sometimes I think the M2 would've been an even greater success if it carried the M3 badge. It's the M3 that has the legendary name, but it became legendary because of driver focused characteristics and the feeling you got while driving it. Now the M3/M4 are big, sporty, luxury, gran tourers that provide a driving experience that's nothing like E30 or E46 M3. It's the M2 that's the closest vehicle BMW currently makes to the cars that made the brand huge to enthusiast. But a lot of buyers want to say they have a M3 or M4, not a M2. Picture the M2C and M2CS with all the color options of the M3/4, upgraded interiors to include a HUD and a M3 or M3CS badge.

The M2 will go down as a legendary car, but if it was actually the M3, it would be insanely popular.

[-EndOfAnEra-]

Originally Posted by Bimmercs

A great review .. long awaited .

Black Magic Wizardry

That's going right up there with Ultimate Driving Machine for me!

But a bit sad. Really making me wonder if this truly is the swan song for fun, playful M cars. Guess I better get at least an M2 Comp for myself!

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Hedoniste

I will do it yes 👍

Further to the investigation, I've located the M4CS and M2C oil pan part numbers from REALOEM.

M2C

11137847198
(03/03/2014 — 08/19/2015)

Part 11137854463 was found on the following F87N vehicles:

2' F87 M2 LCI, M2, Coupe, N55, EUR, (1J51) : Oil Pan
2' F87 M2 LCI, M2, Coupe, N55, EUR, (1J52) : Oil Pan
2' F87 M2 LCI, M2, Coupe, N55, USA, (1J53) : Oil Pan
2' F87 M2 LCI, M2 Competition, Coupe, S55, EUR, (2U71) : Oil Pan
2' F87 M2 LCI, M2 Competition, Coupe, S55, EUR, (2U72) : Oil Pan
2' F87 M2 LCI, M2 Competition, Coupe, S55, USA, (2U73) : Oil Pan

M4CS

Part 11137838706 was found on the following F82N vehicles:

4' F82 M4 LCI, M4 CS, Coupe, S55, EUR, (3S71) : Oil Pan
4' F82 M4 LCI, M4 CS, Coupe, S55, EUR, (3S72) : Oil Pan
4' F82 M4 LCI, M4 CS, Coupe, S55, USA, (3S73) : Oil Pan

[reward72]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy's Dodge

I don't feel like the 6MT is notchy, and have found the throws to be pretty smooth. however my last 3 BMWs have all been 6MT so maybe i dont notice it and I'm just used to it?

I do agree the clutch feels a little light and "springy"...when I drive my F30 335 back to back with my OG, I prefer the weight and more linear feel of the F30 clutch.

James has a Miata. The manual on these cars is exceptional.

[richard in NC]

Originally Posted by dgm3

Go figure...My M2C, also an 2018, has a lot of rattles (center console, passenger seat, passenger door, glove box), arguably more pronounced in the winter season. One of the worst car that I have owned in that respect ... even worse than my 2003 Alfa Romeo 156 .

Only 10k miles on my 2020 but the only rattles I get are things bouncing around in the door pockets, console, etc. With them empty, it's still pretty tight with the exception of some suspension noise coming thru.

[medphysdave]

It's amazing how many people are in Charlotte, and so few M2s are running around. Outside of the dealership I've seen one MB and BSM. There was once an SO M2 at Hendrick. It's the color that makes me jealous.

[F87EVO]

Originally Posted by M2CS

Sometimes I think the M2 would've been an even greater success if it carried the M3 badge. It's the M3 that has the legendary name, but it became legendary because of driver focused characteristics and the feeling you got while driving it. Now the M3/M4 are big, sporty, luxury, gran tourers that provide a driving experience that's nothing like E30 or E46 M3. It's the M2 that's the closest vehicle BMW currently makes to the cars that made the brand huge to enthusiast. But a lot of buyers want to say they have a M3 or M4, not a M2. Picture the M2C and M2CS with all the color options of the M3/4, upgraded interiors to include a HUD and a M3 or M3CS badge.

The M2 will go down as a legendary car, but if it was actually the M3, it would be insanely popular.

40 years before , someone with a brand new E30 M3 told the same thing about a 2002 or E9. 40 yrs later in 2020 , we are saying that the M3 has the name , but the M2 has the character. 40 yrs later , and not even , i bet in just 10yrs , when the 3rd gen M2 will be about to be released , the M2 will be already a legend , especially the first generation. Its always the case with the first gen , because people will see where the M2 came from , and they will look back at F87 .

[Hulk Smash]

Originally Posted by Bimmercs

40 years before , someone with a brand new E30 M3 told the same thing about a 2002 or E9. 40 yrs later in 2020 , we are saying that the M3 has the name , but the M2 has the character. 40 yrs later , and not even , i bet in just 10yrs , when the 3rd gen M2 will be about to be released , the M2 will be already a legend , especially the first generation. Its always the case with the first gen , because people will see where the M2 came from , and they will look back at F87 .

Good point. I agree.

[Hedoniste]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

Further to the investigation, I've located the M4CS and M2C oil pan part numbers from REALOEM.

M2C

11137847198
(03/03/2014 — 08/19/2015)

Part 11137854463 was found on the following F87N vehicles:

2' F87 M2 LCI, M2, Coupe, N55, EUR, (1J51) : Oil Pan
2' F87 M2 LCI, M2, Coupe, N55, EUR, (1J52) : Oil Pan
2' F87 M2 LCI, M2, Coupe, N55, USA, (1J53) : Oil Pan
2' F87 M2 LCI, M2 Competition, Coupe, S55, EUR, (2U71) : Oil Pan
2' F87 M2 LCI, M2 Competition, Coupe, S55, EUR, (2U72) : Oil Pan
2' F87 M2 LCI, M2 Competition, Coupe, S55, USA, (2U73) : Oil Pan

M4CS

Part 11137838706 was found on the following F82N vehicles:

4' F82 M4 LCI, M4 CS, Coupe, S55, EUR, (3S71) : Oil Pan
4' F82 M4 LCI, M4 CS, Coupe, S55, EUR, (3S72) : Oil Pan
4' F82 M4 LCI, M4 CS, Coupe, S55, USA, (3S73) : Oil Pan

Haha... so still no idea about oil capacity !

[CarJunkie]

Originally Posted by Hedoniste

Haha... so still no idea about oil capacity !

Even with the same pan as the M2C, a larger oil cooler with higher caliber lines to provide more flow could easily add 0.5 liters to the capacity.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Jimjamz

Thank you. I thought I must be going crazy. My wife's M235i had a digital Speedo option through the stalk button and I was thinking surely they didn't deprecate that in the M2. I'll know for sure in a few weeks but if any owners can confirm that would be great.

See here:

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by dgm3

Go figure...My M2C, also an 2018, has a lot of rattles (center console, passenger seat, passenger door, glove box), arguably more pronounced in the winter season. One of the worst car that I have owned in that respect ... even worse than my 2003 Alfa Romeo 156 .

From another thread:

[AlpsRider]

Fun! This video makes me want to go out for a blast on the back roads!

[Gunnerforlife]

Is it just me or does the car appear to sit higher in the back than an M3 CS. There is an annoying gap between the wheel and the wheel arches

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by CarJunkie

Even with the same pan as the M2C, a larger oil cooler with higher caliber lines to provide more flow could easily add 0.5 liters to the capacity.

Perhaps, in any case it won't be long before REALOEM will put all of the conjecture to rest.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Gunnerforlife

Is it just me or does the car appear to sit higher in the back than an M3 CS. There is an annoying gap between the wheel and the wheel arches

Brand new it's max wheel gap (even with the shipping/transport blocks removed).

The car 'settles' after a while all by itself (a bit lower - reduced wheel gap).

Take pictures at delivery and do the same later, and you'll notice the difference.

[THEROK]

Originally Posted by Hedoniste

There is a diff between the M3/4 Comp (6.5 liters) and M3/4 CS (7 liters) and I think that the M2 CS has the same oil capacity than M3/4 CS.

Where's the BMW documentation to support your claim?

Update:

IIRC, BMW technical docs point out that the M2 CS lump is lifted from the M3/4 Competition, but the former has a larger oil capacity at 7L as you half correctly stated. M3/4 Competition and its CS brethren hold 6.5L of engine oil.

The M3/4 CS, however, is assured an ample supply of oil at longitudinal and lateral forces of up to 1.4g coupled with a return of the magnesium oil sump which was replaced with an aluminum part very early on in the F8X production cycle for reasons unknown.