[MadBimmeRad]

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Once again, the success of M2C overshadowing the genius of M2CS

[Jimjamz]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Once again, the success of M2C overshadowing the genius of M2CS

But annoyed he compares a M2C with CS hood and then says it looks the same. Let alone exhaust mods and other changes...

[windnsea00]

When he said the Sport button in the CSL makes it a loud louder I turned it off lol

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Jimjamz

But annoyed he compares a M2C with CS hood and then says it looks the same. Let alone exhaust mods and other changes...

M2CS remind me of the Bugsy story.

he stood out in the middle of the desert and saw a city of lights and casinos. Everyone else thought he was mad.

All the naysayers and reviewers keep harping on about why it's not worth extra £25k because M2C is so much better than M2OG, and almost as good as the M2CS.

It's like saying, "I almost live in Beverly Hills"!!

And yet, when somebody pays $50m for a vintage Ferrari, nobody bats an eyelid even though there are much better Ferraris around today.

It seems people have no passion, no imagination, no foresight anymore. Everything is judged by Clicks.

When people pay $3,000 for a pair of runners, it's a win, when they pay extra money for a CS, IT'S MADNESS.

Go figure!!

[Artemis]

Summary of this review:

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Summed up perfectly as always

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Summary of this review:

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Summed up perfectly as always

[cncmastr]

Originally Posted by windnsea00

When he said the Sport button in the CSL makes it a loud louder I turned it off lol

It does though. It causes the intake flap to be open, which increases induction noise. Ask me how I know.

[Supadice]

San Marino on the Comp is amazing....how much was that paint job

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Supadice

San Marino on the Comp is amazing....how much was that paint job

I'd guess over 20k

[Supadice]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

I'd guess over 20k

Soooooo that car is just as expensive as the CS

[sdhotwn]

Originally Posted by Supadice

Soooooo that car is just as expensive as the CS

Add in the diffuser, the duck spoiler, front splitter, the springs, the hood, the paintjob, the remus exhaust, the wheels... that was one thing that drove me nuts in the video...there was no way that it was only a 10k add like claimed in the video. That car as it was rolling was CS money or more. Crazy beautiful too, I LOVE that blue.

I mean a dirt cheap re-spray of a car is around 7k minimum, and 15k if you want a decent one. I just did a respray on my E36, and penny pinching, working with a shop, doing prep work myself, stripping the car of parts and delivering it largely disassembled, and all the nine yards I got it down to around 6k and still skipped a few panels that were in good shape and didn't spray into door jambs and etc like you'd need for a color change.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Supadice

Soooooo that car is just as expensive as the CS

Maybe more

The hood, the paint, the exhaust, the roof, ETC

They would have cost more than 25k which is the difference between M2C & M2CS

[sdhotwn]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Maybe more

The hood, the paint, the exhaust, the roof, ETC

They would have cost more than 25k which is the difference between M2C & M2CS

I agree. I'd wager a used one with all that added is almost CS money or more. Used for 40K, and then 35K+ in mods.

[F87EVO]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

M2CS remind me of the Bugsy story.

he stood out in the middle of the desert and saw a city of lights and casinos. Everyone else thought he was mad.

All the naysayers and reviewers keep harping on about why it's not worth extra £25k because M2C is so much better than M2OG, and almost as good as the M2CS.

It's like saying, "I almost live in Beverly Hills"!!

And yet, when somebody pays $50m for a vintage Ferrari, nobody bats an eyelid even though there are much better Ferraris around today.

It seems people have no passion, no imagination, no foresight anymore. Everything is judged by Clicks.

When people pay $3,000 for a pair of runners, it's a win, when they pay extra money for a CS, IT'S MADNESS.

Go figure!!

I saw that "review" and didnt want to share it . How can he compare a modified car to a stock car. Also i didnt get the weight comparison too . How much kg a CS weights with a 6mt and CCB ? Also how much a 6mt m2 comp weight ?

[BishUK]

It's a wrap (San Marino) and not a respray.
Sooo bored of this type of cliched review now. Evo COTY (two weeks of thorough testing, all weathers, all roads and track etc) tells one all they need to know. Anyone who puts out reviews like this now simply hasn't spent enough time in any of the M2 variants to warrant saying anything else. Anyone who ends their review by saying "get a comp and for 5k you could end up with something extremely close" is an incredibly wishful thinker and quite a clown.

[windnsea00]

Originally Posted by cncmastr

It does though. It causes the intake flap to be open, which increases induction noise. Ask me how I know.

I thought it was the throttle mapping it alters just like the standard E46 M3? I know there is a large flap in the carbon intake that opens/closes based on throttle positioning.

[Bimmed Out]

This review is pointless. The M2C was heavily modded, in part to try to approach a CS. The reviewer did not know all of the mods or the additional costs. And if that is a factory SMB paint job on the M2C, then the C was easily more expensive than the CS. The cost of the M2C is all fine and dandy (I couldn’t care less how expensive another man’s car is) except for the fact that it was another useless review that had the same old rinse-and-repeat discussion about comparative value. If you’re going to come this late to the party and still insist on rehashing comparative value, at least use a stock M2C. This fellow delivered no new information or insight whatsoever.

[Artemis]

Detail: he slipped that the "C" in "CSL" of the E46 M3 CSL stands for "Club" (@02:03).

IMHO that's inaccurate:

Originally Posted by Artemis

AFAIK:

• "CS" stands for "Club Sport" or "Clubsport"
• "CS" does neither stand for "Coupé Sport" nor for "Competition Sport" (though that moniker was used back in 2016 for 60 special M4 cars sold on the Spanish market: see here and here);
• "CSL" stands for "Coupé Sport Leichtbau" ("Coupé Sport Lightweight (construction)").

See more in general the dedicated thread by moderator Law here ("Origins of BMW CS & CSL Models").

However, some press mentions that "CS" in "M2 CS" stands for "Competition Sport".

BMW launch materials expressly refer to "Clubsport" (see here):

This immensely capable car also serves as a basis for the BMW M2 CS Racing model, BMW M Motorsport’s new entry point to amateur racing and the new Clubsport segment from the 2020 season.

“The joint development of the BMW M2 CS and BMW M2 CS Racing underscores the close links between BMW Motorsport and BMW M GmbH,” explains Markus Flasch, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW M GmbH. “Our skillsets converge at the midway point between high-performance cars for the road and all-out racing machines – i.e. in the expanding Clubsport segment. We’re covering this niche with the Clubsport variant of the BMW M2 CS Racing and will be working in a similar direction with future special-edition models from BMW M.”

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Detail: he slipped that the "C" in "CSL" of the E46 M3 CSL stands for "Club" (@02:03).
IMHO that's inaccurate:

I noticed that too. There were a few other items that he seemed to be misinformed about during the video. The terms "knob" and "wanker" come to mind. See what I did there. Both sides of the pond

[Artemis]

Comparisons: comparison between a car and a car that is heavily tuned to fly:

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

I noticed that too. There were a few other items that he seemed to be misinformed about during the video. The terms "knob" and "wanker" come to mind. See what I did there. Both sides of the pond

Knob and wanker were too kind my good Sir.

I do not proclaim to know anywhere near enough about Motorsport or BMW M to be more specific. I just love the M2CS, that's all.

having said that, even I know a few things these good folks didn't. That's in most part the reason I posted it because I was sure those who watched it would perhaps leave comments for the presenter to educate him.

Knobs, lol.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

I noticed that too. There were a few other items that he seemed to be misinformed about during the video. The terms "knob" and "wanker" come to mind. See what I did there. Both sides of the pond

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Knob and wanker were too kind my good Sir.
I do not proclaim to know anywhere near enough about Motorsport or BMW M to be more specific. I just love the M2CS, that's all.
having said that, even I know a few things these good folks didn't. That's in most part the reason I posted it because I was sure those who watched it would perhaps leave comments for the presenter to educate him.
Knobs, lol.

Come on, leave out the name-calling. The review was about a car enthusiast driving three cars back-to-back. Let's respect him.