11-08-2019, 01:41 AM | #67 |
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I own a 2019 M2C with a CS tune and I have been having loads of fun on track. Would I spend another $20k+ on a M2 CS? Hell no! I have a deposit on a $85K C8 Corvette and I will keep my deposit there.
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11-09-2019, 11:38 AM | #68 |
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Who did you go through for the CS tune? Are you worried about warranty?
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11-09-2019, 06:41 PM | #69 |
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No 'comfort access' option available on the M2 CS.
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We've all seen the petrolicious videos of someone waking up early and putting the key into a special vehicle. This will be just like that! Pure driving emotion lol
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I've been reading and following through on this thread and others on the OG M2 Forum.
Basically, if you have an M2, OG or Competition I don't see the value in upgrading to the M2cs??? However, if your in the market for a first time M2.....I'd definitely consider it as it is a very nice refined package. |
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Removing comfort access and other ''luxury'' stuff that weights next to nothing on the behalf of weight saving is almost frustrating.
On top of it BMW must save considerable $ doing this, even the average uneducated buyer can summerise that he's getting less for more.. Almost feels like that car came from the marketing departement more than the M division I'll wait for the reviews for final judgement but I bet its going to be like the M4cs, some suspension tuning, lighter wheels and grippier tires will mostly make the biggest difference.
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I have owned 30 years of Porsche 911’s and Porsche has absolutely lost their mind with the new option pricing. The cars are being built with cheaper materials and Porsche still pushes as far as they can go with up charges. The newbies looking for status can’t see it as they have no point of reference. Last edited by MystroX5; 11-10-2019 at 07:44 AM.. |
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BMW M2 CS faster at Sachsenring than 911 Carerra S, AMG GT S, 718 Cayman GTS and R8 V10
https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/11/09/b...ts-and-r8-v10/
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I know this sounds sarcastic, but not my intention. I seriously doubt tenth of a second differences in lap times at Sachsenring are relevant to 99%+ of potential car buyers looking to purchase any of the vehicles listed. Regardless, if tenths of a second are an important deciding factor, the M2CS offers an apparent 0.69 second advantage over the M2C at Sachsenring. Worth the anticipated upcharge of approximately $25K? All the more reason why the M2C remains so appealing. ///AVM |
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The market where the M2CS corners, is for the occasional track guy/girl and someone who loves to drive for the sheer analog driving pleasure. Not to mention someone who wants a dose of exclusivity. And believe me, there is a market for that exact type of demographic. And sure many may argue it may not be worth the extra $25K, but that's just their opinion...
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Disclaimer, I'm a M2C owner. Where I live there are lots of super nice unique cars. For me the M2CS is not unique enough for a big price hike. Anything over $15K is not worth it for me. I'd rather modifying to my tastes.
PRO: Carbon fiber parts Brakes Suspension CON: Not enough HP gain Not unique from M2C Boring
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BMW didn’t get the pricing right for the M3/4 CS, as the initial cost of admission was just too high, relative to the objective performance benefit. On the M2CS, however, you can’t get a CF roof, 763Ms, Sport Cup 2 tires, adaptive suspension, etc. (plus all the visually distinguishing CF parts that come standard) from the factory until now. I’d hazard a guess that the price of admission here is “more” worth it as a result. I really hope it comes in under 80k in the USA without DCT and CCB. Like a 718 GTS, that would be a damn good price for everything you’re getting. A lot of people talking about modding a Comp are correct - you CAN do it...but don’t discount the value of it coming as a cohesive package from BMW, and with your factory warranty. AND that you get to pay your local dealer to install those various parts as well...
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The spoiler and splitter are not from the catalogue. Looks like none of the parts really are, even though you can get similar but not identical ones from M Performance. Looks to me like alcantara steering wheel and the red calipers are the only carry over, and even then CS skips the word 'performance' on all the bits.
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I understand your points and cannot argue with them when it comes to certain aspects of the M2CS. In fact, I do not wish to give you, or anyone the impression that I am 'arguing' at all. Rather, my hope is that my comments and views represent a healthy contribution to discussion at hand. That said, Boost, like many, tried to equate anticipated $25K cost increase to enhanced performance over the M2C. As objective example, the M2CS offers an apparent 0.69 second advantage over the M2C at Sachsenring. BMW can throw all the carbon fiber parts, exhaust, suspension, etc they want on the M2CS and it will never equate to the $25K cost increase in performance the M2C already offers. Performance aside, others have stated the aesthetics and exclusivity associated with owning an M2CS is worth the $25K cost increase over the M2C. I cannot argue, although I do not adhere to such opinion. The M2C just falls into a ‘sweet spot’ on so many levels that, IMHO, BMW is going through ‘subtraction by addition’ with the M2CS. Ultimately, I am certain there will be 2,200, or so very happy M2CS owners in the world, however, there will be far more M2C owners just as happy with an extra $25K in their pockets. . . and a literal snap of the fingers behind M2CS owners at Sachsenring. ///AVM |
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A new M2C makes sense because it's a ton of car at the $60K-ish price point.
A new M2CS at $90-100K stops making sense pretty quickly, seeing how it's nothing more than a parts catalog "special". Just my $0.02. |
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I am not certain if your numbers at $90-100K are accurate? I should say, I sure as heck hope they are not accurate. I was anticipating $80-85K based on this and other threads pertaining to the M2CS . . . hence my suggesting that the M2CS is not $25K more than what the M2C has to offer. If you are correct in your suggested M2CS price of $90-100K, I have no idea how BMW could justify the price? Honestly, an insult to the M2C and owners. I just jumped onto the web and looked up the price on a new 2020 M4 with Competition package. . . first one I came up with came in at $91K. I am starting to see why the M2CS is a limited release . . . ///AVM https://www.leithbmw.com/new-Raleigh...4Y9C03LFH57904 |
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