Manual M2C drivers, was there something else you almost got instead?

nearwater4me · 10-17-2019, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by warrenw

Personally I think the rear quarter of the car is ugly.

Exactly my thoughts.

Megator · 10-18-2019, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRealOrosie

Haha...as subjective a statement as they come. I actually enjoyed the DCT with the S65 more than the S55. Opinions vary.

They do and that is great

, it is a personal opinion ofcourse.

I drove a V10 M5 with the SMG and hated the GB! Wish it had the manual and it would have been heaven. Was a touring 2!

TopJimmy · 10-19-2019, 11:55 AM

Baege,

If you're in Toronto with city driving then I'd suggest to keep the DCT. My perspective comes from my '18 M3 MT6 being hard to drive in stop and go traffic. My only other complaint is the S55 does have lag below 2K RPM, and the MT6 makes you drive in a higher band than most drivers expect for low speeds. This is the first car that required a shift down to 1st for some low speed corners.

Even though the MT6 makes daily highway driving feel like track day (it feels sooooo good), I do miss the daily-drivability of an automatic. I have to admit I'd pick the DCT for the M2 if given the choice.

-TopJimmy

TheRealOrosie · 10-19-2019, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Megator

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Originally Posted by TheRealOrosie

Haha...as subjective a statement as they come. I actually enjoyed the DCT with the S65 more than the S55. Opinions vary.

They do and that is great

, it is a personal opinion ofcourse.

I drove a V10 M5 with the SMG and hated the GB! Wish it had the manual and it would have been heaven. Was a touring 2!

Ya, SMG was horrid!

Brandt51 · 10-20-2019, 01:18 PM

I considered a Mustang, GT350, Camaro 2SS 1LE, Porsche Cayman and finally the 911.

A manual trans was a requirement as well as having a back seat. I ruled out the pony cars because they're too common and I couldn't find one with the options I wanted, but I would have jumped on a black Camaro if it was available. I gave the 4 cylinder Cayman a shot, it was cool and sounded like a VW bug, but didn't have a back seat and hard to find in manual, but the PDK was pretty cool. The 911 could have fit the bill, but they're way too expensive. Just a couple of options balloon the price up, so I'd have to go used, but that was also too much. Impossible to find with a manual as well in my area.

In the end, the M2 fit what I needed. A tiny little car with a big motor, back seat and manual trans. I wish it had vented seats, adaptive cruise and a HUD though, but I love that it's a drivers car and I find that I rarely use cruise anyways.

Habber · 10-21-2019, 10:35 PM

Just traded my 18' M3 CP for M2C and I was in the same boat. Needed manual and not too many options left with the world changing and buyer habits moving away from MT.

M3 was amazing (also had 17' non CP) but was a big car and liked the smaller M2C.

nearwater4me · 10-22-2019, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Habber

Just traded my 18' M3 CP for M2C and I was in the same boat. Needed manual and not too many options left with the world changing and buyer habits moving away from MT.

M3 was amazing (also had 17' non CP) but was a big car and liked the smaller M2C.

Coming from a Camaro, the M2C feels tiny to me.
How was the M3 ZCP? I would think it’s not that much different in feel.
I somewhat regret not getting the ‘18 YMB earlier this year when great deals could be had.

Habber · 10-22-2019, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nearwater4me

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Originally Posted by Habber

Just traded my 18' M3 CP for M2C and I was in the same boat. Needed manual and not too many options left with the world changing and buyer habits moving away from MT.

M3 was amazing (also had 17' non CP) but was a big car and liked the smaller M2C.

Coming from a Camaro, the M2C feels tiny to me.
How was the M3 ZCP? I would think it’s not that much different in feel.
I somewhat regret not getting the ‘18 YMB earlier this year when great deals could be had.

With 2 kids under 10, the M3 was fantastic and MT was excellent however the bang for the buck on the M2 made it more attractive for me and I can still have my kids in the backseat for school pickups.

I would rather have an M2 and Jeep Wrangler for the same price as a 911 even if the majority of owners seem to "graduate" towards the 911.

stein_325i · 10-22-2019, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nearwater4me

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Originally Posted by Habber

Just traded my 18' M3 CP for M2C and I was in the same boat. Needed manual and not too many options left with the world changing and buyer habits moving away from MT.

M3 was amazing (also had 17' non CP) but was a big car and liked the smaller M2C.

Coming from a Camaro, the M2C feels tiny to me.
How was the M3 ZCP? I would think it’s not that much different in feel.
I somewhat regret not getting the ‘18 YMB earlier this year when great deals could be had.

The M2's shorter wheelbase really helps improve the handling from the F8X

absessive · 10-22-2019, 12:24 PM

Really the only other cars I thought of were the VW Golf R or a used F80 M3. The Golf R which is obviously 1 or 2 price classes lower, still felt quite fun to drive. The F80 M3 being end of life, and used prices for 2017/2018 not being attractive enough, as well the release of the M2 Competition made the M2C the absolute only choice. After having had American muscle cars before, I would never get a GT350 even though the engine sound can't be beat.

pz619 · 10-22-2019, 12:28 PM

Realistically, no. I did try other cars including the GT350. I really liked the GT350 for the motor but didn't like the size nor did it feel as nimble to me. The motor along with the transmission felt great.

Other cars I considered was the RS3 and Cayman. The RS3 would be a great car if the steering wheel faced the other direction. The car just felt fundamentally backwards (big tires in the front, engine facing wrong way, etc). Also lack of manual also put it in a bad position. Cayman was a fantastic car, but at the end of the day didn't really care for the 4 banger. The other issue was lack of value, it was a great car but felt that the BMW offered more, which is how it won the day.

Moflow · 10-23-2019, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pz619

The RS3 would be a great car if the steering wheel faced the other direction.

aassad1 · 10-24-2019, 01:26 PM

I was a heartbeat away from pulling the trigger on a 2019 Cayman GTS because I didn't get an allocation for an M2C at launch. My buddy, who runs the service shop at a dealership, ended up finding me one across the country that was a preorder somebody walked away from. It just so happened to be the exact build out I wanted (6MT, White, Orange Stitching) so I saved myself $25k after having the thing shipped across the country and couldn't be happier.

Ftpohyeah · 10-24-2019, 01:50 PM

Og m2. But when i was ready only the competition was available and i wanted mine brand new from germany since it was my first bmw and first M vehicle.

Unfortunately i am trading my m2 real soon for an x5... family will always come first and besides im interested to see the next gen m2.

Ps - my x5 is sdrive 😂 ill have no problem with the snow tho. If i could do it with the m2 im def gucci with the x5.

baege · 10-27-2019, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SEAT TIME RULES

Get the M2C, then look into the Auto Solutions SSK and the Ultimate Clutch Pedal. Together they are nirvana!

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1643086

So I test drove an M2C manual and didn't walk away saying I must have this car!

I think part of the issue was the manual. So 2 questions, how much does this mod run approximately? And are there warranty implications?

2020m2c · 10-27-2019, 07:31 PM

Lotus Evora GT manual. Simply wanted a rear wheel drive manual car to throw around. Didn't care about back seats but both cars happened to have them.

SEAT TIME RULES · 10-27-2019, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by baege

So I test drove an M2C manual and didn't walk away saying I must have this car!

I think part of the issue was the manual. So 2 questions, how much does this mod run approximately? And are there warranty implications?

THE UCP was $299, the AS SSK was $449. 2 hrs of labor to do the SSK and the UCP can be done in 1 hr. No warranty concerns and my BMW shop did the work. Its a game changer

Hooptie157 · 10-30-2019, 02:04 PM

Alfa QV.... I'm selling my M2C to get one. For me the M2 doesn't feel special enough for 62K....

stein_325i · 10-30-2019, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hooptie157

Alfa QV.... I'm selling my M2C to get one. For me the M2 doesn't feel special enough for 62K....

Great car, you're gonna love it, they're incredibly fun to drive, definitely a class benchmark!

Hooptie157 · 10-30-2019, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by joshuastein55

Great car, you're gonna love it, they're incredibly fun to drive, definitely a class benchmark!

yeah I love how they drive. I'm just losing my ass on the M2 so I'm not just dumping it. I'll wait a month or two then if nothing.... just drop the price and get what I want.

rj45m · 11-02-2019, 07:25 PM

I considered a ZL1, but the manual cars suffer from a bog that occurs when pulling away from a stop (supposedly from an over sensitive torque management system). No permanent fix as of yet, other than a tune. Then there's the poor outward visibility. These issues swayed me toward the M2C. No regrets...while the M2C isn't as quick as the ZL1, it's quick enough to be fun, and I prefer its smaller dimensions and lighter weight. I would've enjoyed the ZL1's blower whine, though.

baege · 11-03-2019, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rj45m

I considered a ZL1, but the manual cars suffer from a bog that occurs when pulling away from a stop (supposedly from an over sensitive torque management system). No permanent fix as of yet, other than a tune. Then there's the poor outward visibility. These issues swayed me toward the M2C. No regrets...while the M2C isn't as quick as the ZL1, it's quick enough to be fun, and I prefer its smaller dimensions and lighter weight. I would've enjoyed the ZL1's blower whine, though.

having owned a C7, I think you made the right call on those aspects of the M2C which swayed you there. Compactness and visbility actually have a significant impact on smiles per miles which I came to learn in my brief courting of the C7

10-19-2019, 11:55 AM	#47
TopJimmy Major General 5459 Rep 5,152 Posts Drives: 2023 M3 Comp xDrive Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Chester County, PA iTrader: (5)	Baege, If you're in Toronto with city driving then I'd suggest to keep the DCT. My perspective comes from my '18 M3 MT6 being hard to drive in stop and go traffic. My only other complaint is the S55 does have lag below 2K RPM, and the MT6 makes you drive in a higher band than most drivers expect for low speeds. This is the first car that required a shift down to 1st for some low speed corners. Even though the MT6 makes daily highway driving feel like track day (it feels sooooo good), I do miss the daily-drivability of an automatic. I have to admit I'd pick the DCT for the M2 if given the choice. -TopJimmy __________________ '18 F80 Base 6MT \| '19 F82 Exec DCT \| '18 F82 Comp Exec DCT \| '23 G80cx
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10-20-2019, 01:18 PM	#49
Brandt51 Flavor of the month 888 Rep 716 Posts Drives: BMW F87 M2C Join Date: May 2019 Location: Not Sin City, Nevada iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 BMW F87 [9.50]	I considered a Mustang, GT350, Camaro 2SS 1LE, Porsche Cayman and finally the 911. A manual trans was a requirement as well as having a back seat. I ruled out the pony cars because they're too common and I couldn't find one with the options I wanted, but I would have jumped on a black Camaro if it was available. I gave the 4 cylinder Cayman a shot, it was cool and sounded like a VW bug, but didn't have a back seat and hard to find in manual, but the PDK was pretty cool. The 911 could have fit the bill, but they're way too expensive. Just a couple of options balloon the price up, so I'd have to go used, but that was also too much. Impossible to find with a manual as well in my area. In the end, the M2 fit what I needed. A tiny little car with a big motor, back seat and manual trans. I wish it had vented seats, adaptive cruise and a HUD though, but I love that it's a drivers car and I find that I rarely use cruise anyways. __________________ Samuel of the Internet 2023 F98 X4M Comp 2023 F95 X5M Comp 2020 F87 M2 Comp
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10-21-2019, 10:35 PM	#50
Habber Colonel 3515 Rep 2,005 Posts Drives: BMW M3 2024 Brooklyn Grey SOLD Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Canada iTrader: (1) Garage List [9.83]	Just traded my 18' M3 CP for M2C and I was in the same boat. Needed manual and not too many options left with the world changing and buyer habits moving away from MT. M3 was amazing (also had 17' non CP) but was a big car and liked the smaller M2C.
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10-22-2019, 12:24 PM	#54
absessive New Member 11 Rep 24 Posts Drives: 2020 M2 Competiton Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 BMW M2C [0.00]	Really the only other cars I thought of were the VW Golf R or a used F80 M3. The Golf R which is obviously 1 or 2 price classes lower, still felt quite fun to drive. The F80 M3 being end of life, and used prices for 2017/2018 not being attractive enough, as well the release of the M2 Competition made the M2C the absolute only choice. After having had American muscle cars before, I would never get a GT350 even though the engine sound can't be beat. __________________ 2020 BMW M2 Competition - HS/6MT 2016 Ducati 959 Panigale
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10-22-2019, 12:28 PM	#55
pz619 Brigadier General 3279 Rep 3,256 Posts Drives: F87 M2C 6MT, Tesla 3 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	Realistically, no. I did try other cars including the GT350. I really liked the GT350 for the motor but didn't like the size nor did it feel as nimble to me. The motor along with the transmission felt great. Other cars I considered was the RS3 and Cayman. The RS3 would be a great car if the steering wheel faced the other direction. The car just felt fundamentally backwards (big tires in the front, engine facing wrong way, etc). Also lack of manual also put it in a bad position. Cayman was a fantastic car, but at the end of the day didn't really care for the 4 banger. The other issue was lack of value, it was a great car but felt that the BMW offered more, which is how it won the day.
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10-24-2019, 01:26 PM	#57
aassad1 Enlisted Member 40 Rep 38 Posts Drives: M2 Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Baltimore, MD iTrader: (0)	I was a heartbeat away from pulling the trigger on a 2019 Cayman GTS because I didn't get an allocation for an M2C at launch. My buddy, who runs the service shop at a dealership, ended up finding me one across the country that was a preorder somebody walked away from. It just so happened to be the exact build out I wanted (6MT, White, Orange Stitching) so I saved myself $25k after having the thing shipped across the country and couldn't be happier.
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10-24-2019, 01:50 PM	#58
Ftpohyeah Lieutenant 285 Rep 441 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: in my bimmer iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 X3 M Competition [0.00] 2024 BMW [10.00]	Og m2. But when i was ready only the competition was available and i wanted mine brand new from germany since it was my first bmw and first M vehicle. Unfortunately i am trading my m2 real soon for an x5... family will always come first and besides im interested to see the next gen m2. Ps - my x5 is sdrive 😂 ill have no problem with the snow tho. If i could do it with the m2 im def gucci with the x5.
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2020m2c Private First Class 181 Rep 162 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW M2 Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: CNY iTrader: (0)	Lotus Evora GT manual. Simply wanted a rear wheel drive manual car to throw around. Didn't care about back seats but both cars happened to have them.
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10-30-2019, 02:04 PM	#62
Hooptie157 First Lieutenant 156 Rep 321 Posts Drives: 2019 M2C Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Smyrna GA iTrader: (2)	Alfa QV.... I'm selling my M2C to get one. For me the M2 doesn't feel special enough for 62K....
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11-02-2019, 07:25 PM	#65
rj45m New Member 12 Rep 14 Posts Drives: '20 M2C Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	I considered a ZL1, but the manual cars suffer from a bog that occurs when pulling away from a stop (supposedly from an over sensitive torque management system). No permanent fix as of yet, other than a tune. Then there's the poor outward visibility. These issues swayed me toward the M2C. No regrets...while the M2C isn't as quick as the ZL1, it's quick enough to be fun, and I prefer its smaller dimensions and lighter weight. I would've enjoyed the ZL1's blower whine, though.
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