[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by Kenetic

My dealer wouldn't tell me how many allocations they are receiving.

Very strange they would do so Kenetic. Presumably they didnt just give you the silent treatment or look at you funny. How exactly did they respond when you asked how many allocations they were receiving?

[le panecito]

I just placed myself on the waiting list at my local dealer. Already anticipating that this is going to be a long wait.....but it'll be worth it.

The dealer told me that they just fulfilled their first order and I'm #3.

[Driver37]

Originally Posted by Destroya

My dealer will not get its HEA car for 6 more weeks! This is real hit or miss as far as allocations are concerned. Is this based on prior M sales, politics or what?

Based off M sales and M235 sales.

[Driver37]

Also...

With all the searching I have been doing.

The most allocations I have seen for a dealership is 3. (1 HEA + 2 Customer allocations)

If you are number 3 on the list, there is a slight chance you may get a MY2016.

But there is an even greater chance you get a MY2017.

Think about it like this...

If the Dealership has 3 people on their "list" one of two things can happen. It all has to deal with the #1 person on their list.

Person number one can take the HEA car.

OR

Person number one can NOT take the HEA car.

If person number one does not take the HEA car there is a STRONG possibility that person #3 on the list will get a MY17.

This is a bold statement I am about to make but I am pretty sure we all saw it coming.

If you are number 4 or later on a dealerships list I am 99% sure you will be getting a MY17...

HOWEVER!

You still MIGHT see your car in the 2016 calendar year.

[Jalva025dmd]

Originally Posted by Driver37

Also...

With all the searching I have been doing.

The most allocations I have seen for a dealership is 3. (1 HEA + 2 Customer allocations)

If you are number 3 on the list, there is a slight chance you may get a MY2016.

But there is an even greater chance you get a MY2017.

Think about it like this...

If the Dealership has 3 people on their "list" one of two things can happen. It all has to deal with the #1 person on their list.

Person number one can take the HEA car.

OR

Person number one can NOT take the HEA car.

If person number one does not take the HEA car there is a STRONG possibility that person #3 on the list will get a MY17.

This is a bold statement I am about to make but I am pretty sure we all saw it coming.

If you are number 4 or later on a dealerships list I am 99% sure you will be getting a MY17...

HOWEVER!

You still MIGHT see your car in the 2016 calendar year.

Sounds possible, thanks for your insight!! #3 right now and think it's a possibility I might get MY16

[confusion]

Originally Posted by Mwm1166

sad that they have to treat it like this, but to them knowledge here is power. They can't keep cars marked up long if people know tons of allocations are about to start flowing in the calendar year.

I think you're looking at it wrong. It's just the opposite. They know how many cars they're getting and don't want their long list of prospects to walk for lack of patience. It's much easier to keep someone waiting if they don't know how long they have to wait. It's just like a restaurant. If you're quoted a 1.5 hour wait, you'll likely leave immediately. If you're quoted 45 mins, you might be willing to wait that long. Once 45 mins has elapsed, if you're told it'll be another 15 every 15 for the next 45, you'll likely stay because of the sunk cost fallacy. Also, during the wait, if you're offered a different car (seat at the bar), you might just take it. That opportunity is gone the moment you leave the dealership (restaurant).

[Destroya]

Originally Posted by Driver37

Based off M sales and M235 sales.

Thanks for your time, insight and information. Helps those of us puzzled by the seeming randomness of M2 deliveries.

[omasou]

Originally Posted by Driver37

Also...

With all the searching I have been doing.

The most allocations I have seen for a dealership is 3. (1 HEA + 2 Customer allocations)

If you are number 3 on the list, there is a slight chance you may get a MY2016.

But there is an even greater chance you get a MY2017.

Think about it like this...

If the Dealership has 3 people on their "list" one of two things can happen. It all has to deal with the #1 person on their list.

Person number one can take the HEA car.

OR

Person number one can NOT take the HEA car.

If person number one does not take the HEA car there is a STRONG possibility that person #3 on the list will get a MY17.

This is a bold statement I am about to make but I am pretty sure we all saw it coming.

If you are number 4 or later on a dealerships list I am 99% sure you will be getting a MY17...

HOWEVER!

You still MIGHT see your car in the 2016 calendar year.

That's me. #1, passed on HEA, no allocation for May and June, like everyone else waiting to hear if there will be a July allocation, which if I'm reading everything correctly will be a MY17 delivered in September and will need to be mothballed for the winter after a few months of driving...may just move myself to #2 or #3 for a Spring 17 deliver.

[zenmaster]

I was offered the HEA car as well and turned it down. This would have allowed me to skip 4 places in the queue, but wanted white instead of black.

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by masou

That's me. #1, passed on HEA, no allocation for May and June, like everyone else waiting to hear if there will be a July allocation, which if I'm reading everything correctly will be a MY17 delivered in September and will need to be mothballed for the winter after a few months of driving...may just move myself to #2 or #3 for a Spring 17 deliver.

How do you know there will be no allocation for May, out of curiosity?

[omasou]

Originally Posted by BruceM

How do you know there will be no allocation for May, out of curiosity?

Last week, when everyone started taking delivery and talking about allocations for May and June, I called the dealer and asked. They said that they did not receive a M2 allocation for May or June and we're trying to trade an M4 allocation for one of three M2 allocations in the NE. I just smiled to myself knowing that would not happen but really appreciated that they at least tried and that he was taking time to talk to me b/c he just so happened to be wrapping up delivery of the HEA at that moment.

[azfootdoc]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

I was offered the HEA car as well and turned it down. This would have allowed me to skip 4 places in the queue, but wanted white instead of black.

Ironic because I was offered a white HEA but wanted black. Fortunately for me the car had not gone into production yet. They were able to change it to BSM for me. Car should be done with production on Monday. I would have taken AW though. Good luck with your search.

[blackholescion]

Originally Posted by BruceM

How do you know there will be no allocation for May, out of curiosity?

Also this post by Driver37.

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...9&postcount=18

All MY16 production dates should have been given out thus far barring any changes and last minute allocations.

[pruettfan]

My dealer says they were told in late January they are getting 12 cars during the 2016 calendar year and took deposits only from the top 12 on the list and placed their orders in the order bank. I have been sitting in the bank patiently (not really) since. I have given up on the idea of getting a 2016, not a huge deal for me because I can change my own oil and brakes when the time comes. It's just the wait that grinds, I have been trying to get them to give me some information on how many allocations they have received so far but they seem hesitant to do so, I don't know if they don't want folks to bail (they have plenty on the list below me) or they don't want to be perceived as over promising. They have an excellent reputation and sell a ton of cars so I am pretty sure I am in good hands but still anxious. I am on several other lists but this is the only one that I have made it into the order bank for. I am not in a huge hurry because I have a work car I use for commute but we are going to buy a house later this year so I would like to pin down my M2 before we go into new construction mortgage lockdown so if worse comes to worse I will find a car somewhere and suck it up.

[Driver37]

Originally Posted by pruettfan

My dealer says they were told in late January they are getting 12 cars during the 2016 calendar year and took deposits only from the top 12 on the list and placed their orders in the order bank. I have been sitting in the bank patiently (not really) since. I have given up on the idea of getting a 2016, not a huge deal for me because I can change my own oil and brakes when the time comes. It's just the wait that grinds, I have been trying to get them to give me some information on how many allocations they have received so far but they seem hesitant to do so, I don't know if they don't want folks to bail (they have plenty on the list below me) or they don't want to be perceived as over promising. They have an excellent reputation and sell a ton of cars so I am pretty sure I am in good hands but still anxious. I am on several other lists but this is the only one that I have made it into the order bank for. I am not in a huge hurry because I have a work car I use for commute but we are going to buy a house later this year so I would like to pin down my M2 before we go into new construction mortgage lockdown so if worse comes to worse I will find a car somewhere and suck it up.

I hate that the dealerships did that...

There was no way to tell what allocations would be given. We barely knew price point.

But that's how they locked people into the car in my opinion...

[OG///M]

Originally Posted by Driver37

I hate that the dealerships did that...

There was no way to tell what allocations would be given. We barely knew price point.

But that's how they locked people into the car in my opinion...

That's what I don't get. So far I've heard quite a few people saying their dealers know exactly how many they're gonna get before the end of 2016 calender year for MY16 and MY17.

Is that even possible? Some say allocation are only handed out on a monthly bases and there's no way to know beyond that?

[Driver37]

Originally Posted by Francis///M

That's what I don't get. So far I've heard quite a few people saying their dealers know exactly how many they're gonna get before the end of 2016 calender year for MY16 and MY17.

Is that even possible? Some say allocation are only handed out on a monthly bases and there's no way to know beyond that?

It is a bit frustrating.

I honestly don't know how a dealer can predict how many vehicles they will be receiving for an end of year prediction. I will speak with my sales manager on Monday but I think it's all BS.

Especially with such a specialty vehicle like this one. BMW hands out certain allocations based of sales from previous months, region, and other specific criteria. So how does a dealer predict what the requirements will be and their quotas?

[Jalva025dmd]

Originally Posted by Francis///M

That's what I don't get. So far I've heard quite a few people saying their dealers know exactly how many they're gonna get before the end of 2016 calender year for MY16 and MY17.

Is that even possible? Some say allocation are only handed out on a monthly bases and there's no way to know beyond that?

I think thats exactly what driver37 is alluding too. Dealers are telling customers that they have X amount of cars in the order bank to lure people into placing deposits. Dealers have no clue how many they get in a year. It's only after several months of allocations that they can guess how many allocations they will get a year.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Destroya

Thanks for your time, insight and information. Helps those of us puzzled by the seeming randomness of M2 deliveries.

Follows the same mold as the 1M which was based off of m and 1 series sales.

[Driver37]

Sorry Guys...

Been swamped with clients. We just got our first non allocated ///M2 in and its causing quite the ruckus.

However all PMs have been replied.

[Shankska]

Originally Posted by Driver37

Sorry Guys...

Been swamped with clients. We just got our first non allocated ///M2 in and its causing quite the ruckus.

However all PMs have been replied.

Already!?!? how so quick?

Thought the real allocations were giving out couple weeks ago, for build weeks next month.

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by Shankska

Already!?!? how so quick?

Thought the real allocations were giving out couple weeks ago, for build weeks next month.

Non-allocated = HEA