[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by akkando

Lol

Lightweight carbon roof in carbon fiber. Package includes car roof in carbon fiber. In addition new windscreen and rear window are required and needs to be ordered seperately. Roof is redesigned. Approx -5kg

time est
12.5 h
(incl windscreens) only in conjunction with windscreenand rear window. Fits also to F22 and F87

OUCH.
So.. essentially.. the best time to do this is as an upgrade when your car is destroyed by either hail that's so bad it shatters the glass.. or perhaps after you have rolled your vehicle..

Originally Posted by Duck Sauce

In talking with my dealer and some of the guys in the shop, they're flat terrified about the idea of cutting the roof on a new car and fitting it with the carbon. I checked my local body shop that does the best work in the state and he just laughed. Said don't call him for that mod.

One will need to find a specialty shop or a RACE shop to do this. Many many repairers will blanch at replacing a roof...

Originally Posted by David1

It is not difficult to do this. Just a lot of time. IND does it in less time. No reason to replace the glass unless it breaks upon removal. I would have no issue doing this since the roof skin is not structural.

When you say.. " I would have no issue doing this " are you a consumer or a repair facility employee. ?

in my experience.. glass doesn't " break by itself upon removal.. " glass is BROKEN often times when repair facility employees attempt removal. Whether or not it actually is BROKEN by the shop employees who then say " it broke upon removal" because they were just trying to get it out the fastest way possible.. or... if it was actually broken during a serious attempt to preserve it is pretty much a secret most owners will never know unless the are present and watching the disassembly.

Originally Posted by Poochie

I think they trying to say the glass structures are different when you replace the roof, notice where it says "Roof is redesign." Or at least that's what I saw..

That's what I noticed as well..

Originally Posted by MR.

You need to remove the glue from the pillars and the windows and then just place them again. You don't need new ones.

Pretty idiotic at BMW mentions that in the document. Let's see what is needed and what the dealer says when I ask for it.

MR

MR did you see the same?

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by David1

It is not difficult to do this. Just a lot of time. IND does it in less time. No reason to replace the glass unless it breaks upon removal. I would have no issue doing this since the roof skin is not structural.

I think they trying to say the glass structures are different when you replace the roof, notice where it says "Roof is redesign." Or at least that's what I saw..

[Franzino]

Originally Posted by Colinv6

Interesting that they will only fit the roof with a new front and rear window.

I’m excited that the brakes are available next month!!

According to the list; the Retrofit Kit 19-inch compound Brake system are not available for the normal M2... Strange?

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Franzino

According to the list; the Retrofit Kit 19-inch compound Brake system are not available for the normal M2... Strange?

Well.. brakes were not made available for the OG M2.

brakes are now available for the M2 competition that can be retrofitted to the M2.

Finally.. the M performance calipers are RED.

Silver upgraded brakes are available for the M2 Competition (and they are the same except for color)

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by cntzl

Finally got an answer on how much lighter the CF fenders are. They each save 1.5kg or total of 6.6lbs weight savings in total. Not worth it IMO... I will probably just order the hood and call it a day.

Yeah thought the fenders would be more. Anyways interested in hood and trunk, 33lbs savings between the two.

[David1]

Originally Posted by Poochie

I think they trying to say the glass structures are different when you replace the roof, notice where it says "Roof is redesign." Or at least that's what I saw..

There is no difference in the glass. they might just not care about breaking the glass for speed of removing them, but that makes no sense either since the OEM glass is a fortune.

[Powaup]

At $150 per hour roof install will be $1875

[drgmt]

The carbon fibre roof calamity highlights just how stupid decision makers in BMW actually are.

[Silververtu]

Originally Posted by Powaup

At $150 per hour roof install will be $1875

Plus front and back windshields. Don't forget front windshield has special coating for the HUD which means $$$$$$

[David1]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

OUCH.
So.. essentially.. the best time to do this is as an upgrade when your car is destroyed by either hail that's so bad it shatters the glass.. or perhaps after you have rolled your vehicle..



One will need to find a specialty shop or a RACE shop to do this. Many many repairers will blanch at replacing a roof...



When you say.. " I would have no issue doing this " are you a consumer or a repair facility employee. ?

in my experience.. glass doesn't " break by itself upon removal.. " glass is BROKEN often times when repair facility employees attempt removal. Whether or not it actually is BROKEN by the shop employees who then say " it broke upon removal" because they were just trying to get it out the fastest way possible.. or... if it was actually broken during a serious attempt to preserve it is pretty much a secret most owners will never know unless the are present and watching the disassembly.



That's what I noticed as well..



MR did you see the same?

I am both. I can have a glass company remove the glass and I can do the rest in a weekend. Get the bonding agent and some clamps and good to go. Any competent body shop can do this. Any good tech can also, if they can replace a sunroof cassette than they can do the roof.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by Silververtu

Plus front and back windshields. Don't forget front windshield has special coating for the HUD which means $$$$$$

2-series (including M2) does not have HUD.

[FrankMPower]

Originally Posted by Chwali

Just got some updated info (part numbers, product details, availability, installation time) on M Performance Parts for the M2 Competition. Don't know about US region, this is for Europe but I assume your region is more important for BMW so it's legit.

PDF: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/at...6&d=1528315640

It is exactly the same carbon spoiler and Carbon diffuser (same part#)? on a regular M2 ? Thanks in advance!

[C_Competition]

Originally Posted by FrankMPower

It is exactly the same carbon spoiler and Carbon diffuser (same part#)? on a regular M2 ? Thanks in advance!

i would say yes

[FrankMPower]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Well.. brakes were not made available for the OG M2.

brakes are now available for the M2 competition that can be retrofitted to the M2.

Finally.. the M performance calipers are RED.

Silver upgraded brakes are available for the M2 Competition (and they are the same except for color)

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Well.. brakes were not made available for the OG M2.

brakes are now available for the M2 competition that can be retrofitted to the M2.

Finally.. the M performance calipers are RED.

Silver upgraded brakes are available for the M2 Competition (and they are the same except for color)

The red calipers are available at the dealer? ...i'm in Canada!

[beppeM3+123d]

This is an m2 not an huracan performante, why don't do the hood in ALU with dome at a reasonable cost.
They have push over the limit in stupid and expensive retrofit.

Why don't make the carbon roof as optional, but the brake yes....are they idiot at marketing???

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by akkando

Lol

Lightweight carbon roof in carbon fiber. Package includes car roof in carbon fiber. In addition new windscreen and rear window are required and needs to be ordered seperately. Roof is redesigned. Approx -5kg

time est
12.5 h
(incl windscreens) only in conjunction with windscreenand rear window. Fits also to F22 and F87

New front and rear window! Crickey. Another reason to await Nov18

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by David1

There is no difference in the glass. they might just not care about breaking the glass for speed of removing them, but that makes no sense either since the OEM glass is a fortune.

it's a good opportunity to just put in Lexan..

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Powaup

At $150 per hour roof install will be $1875

that would be at a service dept labor.. not body shop.. although you are in CA..

Anyone having this done needs to have a BODY SHOP perform this repair.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by FrankMPower

The red calipers are available at the dealer? ...i'm in Canada!

if you order big brakes with the car new they will be silver.
if you order big brakes at the parts counter they come in red.

why there are color differences based on when they are purchased .... I am not sure...

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by FrankMPower

It is exactly the same carbon spoiler and Carbon diffuser (same part#)? on a regular M2 ? Thanks in advance!

Same part numbers. Coilovers are also the same. Basically anything that says available now, are the carried over parts.

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

that would be at a service dept labor.. not body shop.. although you are in CA..

Anyone having this done needs to have a BODY SHOP perform this repair.

Didn’t @Mr say US buyers could get roof port installed? When roof is available to order.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by Poochie

They intentionally made the roof difficult to obtain..

I am still trying to find the reasoning in that decision..

there is none. this move will for sure backfire on them.