[M3R1]

Originally Posted by baege

This is where the M2C becomes the better value proposition. Yes the M2CS will hold its value better if you don't drive it than an M2C will if you don't drive it. But drive both a regular amount of miles and you'll lose more on the M2CS.

If you can afford to have an M2CS as a pleasure only use car that you can keep the miles down on, it makes sense over an M2C that you would use the same way.

But for a regular use sport coupe, the M2C is the better buy.

If you got deep pockets and don't care then of course M2CS all the way!

My CS is strictly a weekend toy. I use it pretty much exactly as I did all of my motorcycles. I just turned 2k miles over the weekend...

[Neusser]

Comp gets my vote. I don't feel the need for any more power in this chassis, and the torque is the same.

No doubt CS susp. geo is better for the track, but there is nothing else about it that interests me. Most track bros are going to toss the stock setup anyways.

CS cosmetics are a step down, IMO -- particularly the wheels.

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by Neusser

Comp gets my vote. I don't feel the need for any more power in this chassis, and the torque is the same.

No doubt CS susp. geo is better for the track, but there is nothing else about it that interests me. Most track bros are going to toss the stock setup anyways.

CS cosmetics are a step down, IMO — particularly the wheels.

This is one of the better necro trolls. I commend you sir/mam

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

This is one of the better necro trolls. I commend you sir/mam

"Everyone I don't like is Hitler"

[MooMooM2]

you certainly entitled to your opinion but the majority of people thinks cosmetically the CS is a better looking car. The 763 wheels are nicer than the 788s, lighter too and way easier to clean, the hood works very well with the lines of the car (almost feels like its missing on the C), roof is cool, interior is nicer too minus the no arm rest (it does look nice without it though if we talking aesthetics).

I have no skin in the game either, sold my comp but if you gave me a choice I certainly would pick a CS over a comp all day

[MDuckie]

I’ve never heard the “CS wheels are uglier” take lol. I’ve mostly seen the “CS wheels are the nicest BMW wheel they’ve ever made” take.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by MDuckie

I’ve never heard the “CS wheels are uglier” take lol. I’ve mostly seen the “CS wheels are the nicest BMW wheel they’ve ever made” take.

The 788s are the nicest M2 wheel. In translucent black they look like jewelry, particularly with the track-pack brakes.

My car does not have the 788s, unfortunately. But I am quite happy it did not come with the CSL-style wheel or really any of the tat from the CS--aside from the alacantara steering wheel.

[philth]

Originally Posted by MDuckie

I’ve never heard the “CS wheels are uglier” take lol. I’ve mostly seen the “CS wheels are the nicest BMW wheel they’ve ever made” take.

That guy [post above this one] may legit be the worst poster on this board. A complete troll. This thread necro is just one of many examples (go to the OG side to see more of his work). Contributes absolutely nothing.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by chmura

M2cs is overpriced for what is it. You get 1-2% performance increase for $25k more money. Just not worth it IMO.

To say this is to miss the point of the CS. It was never about more performance, it was about exclusivity for those BMW enthusiasts that could afford it. It was the M2's swan song.

Having said that, I think BMW missed the opportunity to make a few small changes that would have resulted in a major impact on buyers.

1. No one likes the additional front wheel gap the car has had since 2016. Sitting at 620/620, a mild drop to 600/605, correcting the front gap, would have gone over very well indeed, and costed them nothing.

2. The preferred wheel size is 9.5F/10.5R, and had they produced the 763M (without the MPerf logo) in those sizes they would have been sought after until the end of time. They also would have allowed the car to run a slightly wider tire, which would have increased its performance. For such a light wheel and tire combo, it would have been a win/win IMO.

3. Giving the car a proper sounding/looking exhaust should have been more of a priority. They had the opportunity to change a couple of things to make the car sound better, and give it more presence, and again, make M2C owners chase the exhaust until the end of time for a better OE experience, but instead they gave the car a woefully underwhelming piece that no one wants.

Small changes that would have made a huge impact.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

To say this is to miss the point of the CS. It was never about more performance, it was about exclusivity for those BMW enthusiasts that could afford it. It was the M2's swan song.

Having said that, I think BMW missed the opportunity to make a few small changes that would have resulted in a major impact on buyers.

1. No one likes the additional front wheel gap the car has had since 2016. Sitting at 620/620, a mild drop to 600/605, correcting the front gap, would have gone over very well indeed, and costed them nothing.

2. The preferred wheel size is 9.5F/10.5R, and had they produced the 763M (without the MPerf logo) in those sizes they would have been sought after until the end of time. They also would have allowed the car to run a slightly wider tire, which would have increased its performance. For such a light wheel and tire combo, it would have been a win/win IMO.

3. Giving the car a proper sounding/looking exhaust should have been more of a priority. They had the opportunity to change a couple of things to make the car sound better, and give it more presence, and again, make M2C owners chase the exhaust until the end of time for a better OE experience, but instead they gave the car a woefully underwhelming piece that no one wants.

Small changes that would have made a huge impact.

"My OG has better wheel gap than your CS"

A great many straws are being grasped.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by Neusser

"My OG has better wheel gap than your CS"

A great many straws are being grasped.

You should change your name to "no contribution guy." I never said anything about the OG vs CS gap. All M2's have the same 620/620 ride height from the factory, and only someone quite clueless would prefer the front-to-rear gap. The least BMW could have done is evened the gap for the limited edition CS.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

You should change your name to "no contribution guy." I never said anything about the OG vs CS gap. All M2's have the same 620/620 ride height from the factory, and only someone quite clueless would prefer the front-to-rear gap. The least BMW could have done is evened the gap for the limited edition CS.

Wheel gap, stance, exhausts...

What is next? K&N filters and some spacers?

I think we have different priorities in terms of what makes a good BMW.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by Neusser

Wheel gap, stance, exhausts...

What is next? K&N filters and some spacers?

I think we have different priorities in terms of what makes a good BMW.

It's well known that BMW themselves say that the MPS is superior to the stock suspension, and their recommended street ride height is 595/600. I'm going to side with them (and everyone else) on which would perform better. And although the CS suspension is different, I believe it could have benefitted from some lowering and rake.

BMW also uses HUGE spacers on their M2CS race car (much larger than the common 12/10 most guys here use) when they could have easily engineered wheels without such.

I think you need to research more before you make such remarks, as you're getting more and more unpopular by the day.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

It's well known that BMW themselves say that the MPS is superior to the stock suspension, and their recommended street ride height is 595/600. I'm going to side with them (and everyone else) on which would perform better. And although the CS suspension is different, I believe it could have benefitted from some lowering and rake.

BMW also uses HUGE spacers on their M2CS race car (much larger than the common 12/10 most guys here use) when they could have easily engineered wheels without such.

I think you need to research more before you make such remarks, as you're getting more and more unpopular by the day.

You are citing a carefully engineered race car suspension as a reason to toss spacers on your own car--a road car the engineering data for which you have no real access to or understanding of with regard to the testing and development phases?




And you "believe" the CS suspension could benefit from lowering.

What a scientific assessment.


You have convinced me.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by Neusser

You are citing a carefully engineered race car suspension as a reason to toss spacers on your own car--a road car the engineering data for which you have no real access to or understanding of with regard to the testing and development phases?




And you "believe" the CS suspension could benefit from lowering.

What a scientific assessment.


You have convinced me.

Alright man, you win, agree to disagree. This will be my last post to you.

Enjoy.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

Alright man, you win, agree to disagree. This will be my last post to you.

Enjoy.

Damn, I was hoping for some engineering specs.

[blkonblk]

Not saying who's who but this reminds me of Mark Twain's quote with George Carlin's embellishment of "Never argue with an idiot, he will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience." 😅