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3400lbs will be unacceptable to me. If BMW doesn't make a significantly different M2 compared to the M235i then I wont bother.
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The thing is BMW made the M235i so good so that new owners can get a taste of what driving and owning a real M could be like. This they have succeeded, but that would mean a lot of M235i owners wanting more when their lease ends, or in 2- 3 years when they want a new car will be excited to get into a full fledged M2 that to me should be significantly superior to the M235i. Otherwise what's the point in spending more for an M2 when the M235i is already so good? I do not think BMW will disappoint.
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Is this your opinion or have you read some specific info on these details?
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That said, I think BMW will easily sell every M2 they build, at or above MSRP, for quite a while.
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As much as I'd like to see the M2 be a true lightweight, I don't see how it's feasible...but regardless, it will be a great car.
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This right here is why I will probably end up in a 435, rather than a 235 or M2, once my F10 lease is up. The weight advantage is not substantial on the 2 series, and the 4 provides quite a bit more usable room, especially in the back. Lower center of gravity as well, if I read correctly.
As I said above, the M2 (and the M235i) are very interesting cars - but at their price point the choice isn't necessarily clear, even within BMW's own offerings.
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I wouldn't even consider an M2 with a 4 cylinder. I'll happily take the extra weight to get the smoothness, sound, and power delivery of a bigger motor with less boost. |
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Whilst I'd be tempted to sell my 1M for an M2, I do have reservations. Namely that if the M2 is not a limited run car, it's likely to depreciate quite heavily.
So far, the 1M has remained very strong and judging by the recent offers I've had on the car, it's lost about 11% of it's value in nearly three years! I'm still really enjoying my 1M and whilst the prices may drop slightly when the M2 comes out, I'm still going to be in a good position overall given the lack of depreciation over the last 3 years. If the M2 turns out to be a superb car (which I'm sure it will), then I may reconsider, but that aside, it's still nice to own one of the very limited run 1M's |
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I think 1M owners are in a great position, as you have an awesome car to enjoy as you see the development of the M2 come to pass. I also think that there will be plenty of people wanting to pay good money for a 1M, even after the M2 is released. Being a limited production car, and basically a cult classic already, there will always be a market for that little beast.
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The N54 and N55 have torque and power curves that are remarkably similar. The N54 had/has much better tuning options. Yes, the N54 had HPFP issues, but that was resolved by a change in fuel pump part, not the N55 engine design. The N54 vs N55 stuff is ridiculous. They're very extremely similar engines. The N54 had some better internal components, but in stock trim, I'd challenge anyone to tell them apart in a blind test. None of this has anything to do with the engine that will be delivered in the M2, because BMW has the resources required to tune the engine to whatever characteristics they like.
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