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      03-17-2020, 02:57 PM   #23
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Case in point: a friend of mine that manages a restaurant that is part of a larger restaurant group was laid off yesterday. On his birthday.
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Yeah man. My office is across from a major chain bar/restaurant, and its full from 11AM till close. Not a soul today. Place employed 180 people
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So far one of my friends have already been laid off and many of my other friends are fearful they will soon be too. Other friends which have their own businesses are already fearful they will be unable to stay afloat and may go bankrupt. This is upending the entire world and this is only the beginning.
Yea, I know two people that just told me they got laid off, which I learned is not the same getting fired, as there is an opportunity you'll resume working, at an indefinite time period. I was aware of the destination between the two :

This is scary times and president Covfefe-45 begrudgingly admitted that a vaccine for Covid-19 is a over a year away, from design to approval..

I could only imagine this would severely affect the auto industry, it would be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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Well done. I can't help but think of all the food service workers/mom-pop businesses who were impacted by Maryland's decision to restrict restaurants, bars, and movies yesterday. This has such a huge impact on the people who need the money the most. This is going to be very tough for a while. I've been going to work every day just so I can focus and get work done, but even take-out restaurants are very quiet. I hope we flatted the curve and these restrictions can be removed after 3-4 weeks.
This stuff just makes me cry. Great to hear so many fellow Bimmer owners doing the right thing.
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Honestly?

If Leipzig production shuts down for any significant length of time AND we get whacked by a full-bore global recession/depression, I could easily see BMW killing off the 2021 M2C as a cost saving measure.

Not a Warm Fuzzy, but what is these days?

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Sorry, couldn't resist the elephant in the room.
No sports, no restaurants or bars, no gatherings of more than 10 people. Our local BMWCCA driver events for the spring are in jeopardy. What's a person to do? Wait, I know, take that beast out for a long drive. It's been a really early spring. Great weather. A long drive in our cars is just what the doctor orders! And because most people are staying home, there's less traffic on the roads.
Have to try and stay positive. Be safe and healthy everyone!!!
It’s getting crazier day by day. I did the same today. Went for a long drive at 3:00 p.m., and there was no traffic on the roads!! It felt so strange.

Stay safe everyone.

P.S: at least the gas is cheap AF these days.
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Honestly?
If Leipzig production shuts down for any significant length of time AND we get whacked by a full-bore global recession/depression, I could easily see BMW killing off the 2021 M2C as a cost saving measure.
Not a Warm Fuzzy, but what is these days?
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I just hope they don’t kill the CS. I have one on order. I’m really lokking forward to it!!
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We are having VPN capacity problems at work, and we're working furiously to resolve it (with a vendor being absolutely stellar and working their tail off to get us some hardware), so I have still been going into work. I drove home at peak rush hour yesterday and it was like driving when most of the world was at church or something. Unexpectedly fun drive! I expect to be taking a lot of drives to random places, sitting in the car reading a book for a bit, and then coming right home over the next few months.
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I just hope they don’t kill the CS. I have one on order. I’m really lokking forward to it!!
Where are you in Ontario? Just closed the U.S. / Canada border to nonessential traffic. I'm Canadian and all my family live in Ottawa and Brockville. I guess it will be a while before I can visit again.

DAMN THIS COVID-19 PLAGUE!

Heard that VW and Chrysler-Fiat have closed some production. Hope your CS order does't get cancelled.
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We are in lock down in the San Francisco Bay Area. Los Gatos is dead quiet but my social distancing includes taking the longest winding roads for essentials. Makes enjoy my M2C even more.
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WFH day 3, feels like week 3.
Family and friends are really starting to piss me off complaining about this non-stop. No shit, we're ALL in this together you blabbering morons. Then there are those that are still in denial and don't want to accept the truth. They scare me the most by being careless and outright selfish aholes going out etc without give two F's about anyone else.
In the coming weeks I will look to all of you, my bimmerpost friends to keep me sane and make the time go by easier. Unfortunately don't have any plans to get parts etc., but I do plan on mocking the new grille on the 4 series and G80/82 quite extensively.
Show them these sobering stats of known figures published by FT which shout "Hunker down asap, goddammit !" (source: here):

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Honestly?
If Leipzig production shuts down for any significant length of time AND we get whacked by a full-bore global recession/depression, I could easily see BMW killing off the 2021 M2C as a cost saving measure.
Not a Warm Fuzzy, but what is these days?
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Yeah dreams of ever doing Euro delivery dashed.
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I think if I really want an M2 before this platform ends, I'd find a good spec on a dealer lot and buy it now. The entire global supply chain is being disrupted, and once things come back on line, manufacturers will re-prioritize production/volumes/models etc. The economy is going to have to reset once it wakes up again.
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I fail the words...

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I'm sorry, I don't blame the spring-breakers in Miami, to paraphrase Ivan Drago; 'if I die, I die'..

I know this a pandemic and seems pretty severe to some with a weak immunity that are infected but humanity as a whole is resilient and has survived much worst threats, yet bounced back.

I'm not trying to downplay those that are affected but I personally felt that all these lockdowns was unwarranted and didn't necessarily need to grind the entire globe to a screeching halt, for a virus that hasn't fully yet proven to be contractible via airborne.

This whole thing seems like a perfect storm, that had gotten overblown by the media, since everyone nowadays has a phone attached to their face, thus, causing the fear-mongering to spread worst than the actual virus, forcing the government and businesses to react, in order to appease their constituents.

As a result, this elicited a chain-reaction of panic, almost like dominos falling on each other, which is likely to produce more harm to societies around the globe than the virus, possibly for many years to come.

I can't wait for everything to resume to normal, so we asses what actual damage has been done, as a result of this gross overreaction.

**Of course this is just my opinion, I could be wrong..**
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Poochie,

It's a bit of a catch-22...if the pandemic turns out to be of little consequence, there are those that will say it's evidence that we didn't need to shut things down, and those that will say the shutdown is why it was of little impact.

Of course there is no way to know for sure because we will not have let this play out without shutting things down. And so the bickering and arguing over what was best to do will continue as always.

Personally I'm pleased to see that decisions are being made with the interest of human lives at the forefront, rather than economic consequences. It runs counter to the stories of everyday greed we've been accustomed to in a capitalistic society. Maybe it gives me a little more faith in society than I had 3 weeks ago.
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It's a bit of a catch-22...if the pandemic turns out to be of little consequence, there are those that will say it's evidence that we didn't need to shut things down, and those that will say the shutdown is why it was of little impact.
Of course there is no way to know for sure because we will not have let this play out without shutting things down. And so the bickering and arguing over what was best to do will continue as always.
Personally I'm pleased to see that decisions are being made with the interest of human lives at the forefront, rather than economic consequences. It runs counter to the stories of everyday greed we've been accustomed to in a capitalistic society. Maybe it gives me a little more faith in society than I had 3 weeks ago.
All fair points but the fact is, we'll never really know if this abundance of caution was really a worthwhile move.. You really can't measure the benefits in quantitative number, other than feeling that the right moves to err on the side of caution was not all a waste. Life will go on and we'll all absorb the loss and move on..

I'm glad to hear that your faith in humanity was somewhat restored but call me cynical but I feel like all these companies only shuttered to save face, more so than valuing human life over profits.

Nowadays, in the Court of Public Opinion, one's reputation can make or break you, so they really didn't have much of a choice.

I wholeheartedly blame the media for this panic, I'm not exactly saying ignorance is bliss but when they're constantly pounding a specific topic in the public's head, it takes on a life of its own..

Anyways, I can go for days but I won't bore you, I just hope everyone comes to their senses and some normalcy is restored soon..

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I'm sorry, I don't blame the spring-breakers in Miami, to paraphrase Ivan Drago; 'if I die, I die'..
I know this a pandemic and seems pretty severe to some with a weak immunity that are infected but humanity as a whole is resilient and has survived much worst threats, yet bounced back.
I'm not trying to downplay those that are affected but I personally felt that all these lockdowns was unwarranted and didn't necessarily need to grind the entire globe to a screeching halt, for a virus that hasn't fully yet proven to be contractible via airborne.
This whole thing seems like a perfect storm, that had gotten overblown by the media, since everyone nowadays has a phone attached to their face, thus, causing the fear-mongering to spread worst than the actual virus, forcing the government and businesses to react, in order to appease their constituents.
As a result, this elicited a chain-reaction of panic, almost like dominos falling on each other, which is likely to produce more harm to societies around the globe than the virus, possibly for many years to come.
I can't wait for everything to resume to normal, so we asses what actual damage has been done, as a result of this gross overreaction.
**Of course this is just my opinion, I could be wrong..**
Poochie, what feels like an over reaction is actually a lack of stronger action if you ask the experts (not the kids on spring break). Dont worry about social media (I'm hoping you dont get your news from there), but instead read what many doctors and scientists are working on to understand this infection and the implications. If not controlled through current and more severe measures, a large portion of the population risk getting impacted. And this infection is also not fully understood by doctors and scientists (Imagine trying to put out a raging fire while trying to understand its source). Most of it us laymen will not understand, so I like to read and leave the predictions and precautions to the experts. I'll follow them.

Yeah, there are lots of inconveniences and we all have to sit at home for a bit, and the economic impacts will be huge. So lets do our parts and get this over with quickly
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After 3 days of WFH I took the M2C out this morning to get a little therapy. I still can't believe how this car speaks to me. Love, love, love this car!!! I have scheduled another therapy session for tomorrow morning.
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Poochie, what feels like an over reaction is actually a lack of stronger action if you ask the experts (not the kids on spring break). Dont worry about social media (I'm hoping you dont get your news from there), but instead read what many doctors and scientists are working on to understand this infection and the implications. If not controlled through current and more severe measures, a large portion of the population risk getting impacted. And this infection is also not fully understood by doctors and scientists (Imagine trying to put out a raging fire while trying to understand its source). Most of it us laymen will not understand, so I like to read and leave the predictions and precautions to the experts. I'll follow them.
Yeah, there are lots of inconveniences and we all have to sit at home for a bit, and the economic impacts will be huge. So lets do our parts and get this over with quickly
+1

It must be taken seriously. This is what I've leaned about it so far.
  • 'Coronavirus' is the generic name for a group of viruses which include SARS and MERS. This virus type gets its name from the corona looking structure which surrounds it.
  • The medical name for the virus is SARS-Cov-2 (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2)
  • The medical name of the disease caused by the virus is Covid-19 (Co: Corona, Vi: Virus, D: Disease, 19: Year virus emerged, 2019)
  • This virus is Zoonotic, meaning it made the jump from animals (currently thought to be bats) to humans. Humans do not have any type of immunity to this virus and is one of the reasons it's so dangerous.
  • This virus is airborne and spreads easily. Most infected people don't show any symptoms on average for 4 days, but some may show symptoms in as little as 2 days or as long as 2 weeks later. People who get it are highly infectious days before they show any symptoms.
  • We don't know the long term affects of the virus. It's "novel" and they are leaning more about it everyday. For instance the current mortality rates among young adults in the U.S. are already higher than what's been seen in China to date. We are still learning about it and will continue to for years to come.
TL;DR: Don't become a statistic or be part of the problem.
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Poochie, what feels like an over reaction is actually a lack of stronger action if you ask the experts (not the kids on spring break). Dont worry about social media (I'm hoping you dont get your news from there), but instead read what many doctors and scientists are working on to understand this infection and the implications. If not controlled through current and more severe measures, a large portion of the population risk getting impacted. And this infection is also not fully understood by doctors and scientists (Imagine trying to put out a raging fire while trying to understand its source). Most of it us laymen will not understand, so I like to read and leave the predictions and precautions to the experts. I'll follow them.
Yeah, there are lots of inconveniences and we all have to sit at home for a bit, and the economic impacts will be huge. So lets do our parts and get this over with quickly
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It must be taken seriously. This is what I've leaned about it so far.
  • 'Coronavirus' is the generic name for a group of viruses which include SARS and MERS. This virus type gets its name from the corona looking structure which surrounds it.
  • The medical name for the virus is SARS-Cov-2 (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2)
  • The medical name of the disease caused by the virus is Covid-19 (Co: Corona, Vi: Virus, D: Disease, 19: Year virus emerged, 2019)
  • This virus is Zoonotic, meaning it made the jump from animals (currently thought to be bats) to humans. Humans do not have any type of immunity to this virus and is one of the reasons it's so dangerous.
  • This virus is airborne and spreads easily. Most infected people don't show any symptoms on average for 4 days, but some may show symptoms in as little as 2 days or as long as 2 weeks later. People who get it are highly infectious days before they show any symptoms.
  • We don't know the long term affects of the virus. It's "novel" and they are leaning more about it everyday. For instance the current mortality rates among young adults in the U.S. are already higher than what's been seen in China to date. We are still learning about it and will continue to for years to come.
TL;DR: Don't become a statistic or be part of the problem.
Sorry if I come off as ignorant, it's really not my intention but everyday you walk out your house is a gamble, tomorrow is not guaranteed, so I'm willing roll the dice and move on..

This world was here yesterday, it's here today and will be right here tomorrow, humanity is not going anywhere anytime soon, until maybe the aliens get here and stake their claim..

I honestly believe this virus is overblown, we've been through worst and at the risk of sounding callous; people die everyday but now the media has a stranglehold on a juicy story, they they let the fear-mongering spread, like herpes at a swingers party but whatever..

And this is how they spread mass hysteria:
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I'm sorry, I don't blame the spring-breakers in Miami, to paraphrase Ivan Drago; 'if I die, I die'..
I know this a pandemic and seems pretty severe to some with a weak immunity that are infected but humanity as a whole is resilient and has survived much worst threats, yet bounced back.
I'm not trying to downplay those that are affected but I personally felt that all these lockdowns was unwarranted and didn't necessarily need to grind the entire globe to a screeching halt, for a virus that hasn't fully yet proven to be contractible via airborne.
This whole thing seems like a perfect storm, that had gotten overblown by the media, since everyone nowadays has a phone attached to their face, thus, causing the fear-mongering to spread worst than the actual virus, forcing the government and businesses to react, in order to appease their constituents.
As a result, this elicited a chain-reaction of panic, almost like dominos falling on each other, which is likely to produce more harm to societies around the globe than the virus, possibly for many years to come.
I can't wait for everything to resume to normal, so we asses what actual damage has been done, as a result of this gross overreaction.
**Of course this is just my opinion, I could be wrong..**
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Sorry if I come off as ignorant, it's really not my intention but everyday you walk out your house is a gamble, tomorrow is not guaranteed, so I'm willing roll the dice and move on..
This world was here yesterday, it's here today and will be right here tomorrow, humanity is not going anywhere anytime soon, until maybe the aliens get here and stake their claim..
I honestly believe this virus is overblown, we've been through worst and at the risk of sounding callous; people die everyday but now the media has a stranglehold on a juicy story, they they let the fear-mongering spread, like herpes at a swingers party but whatever..
And this is how they spread mass hysteria:
Poochie, FWIW, keep an eye on the permanently updated Johns Hopkins University coronavirus dashboard (see here) and check how things evolve globally and in the US.

And keep in mind that it only features officially known/disclosed figures (confirmed cases). Sobering.
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