M2 vs M2 Competition 1/4 mile numbers

dmboone25 · 07-03-2018, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

Yeah but none of that is going to make your car look 10x sexier on the outside

I'm also not a fan of the MPE on the S55 after having it on my M3. Probably an unpopular opinion but it was very raspy IMO. Maybe paired w/ a single mid pipe.

Not to go off topic, but are you in the market for the M2C?

Didn't you get rid of your F80 for an E92? Wasn't sure if I was remembering that correctly...

dmk08 · 07-03-2018, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dmboone25

Not to go off topic, but are you in the market for the M2C?

Didn't you get rid of your F80 for an E92? Wasn't sure if I was remembering that correctly...

I have one on order yes. I like to switch M cars apparently. 2008 M3, 2011 M3, 2015 M3, 2016 M4, 2011 M3, Now a 2019 M2 Comp

dmboone25 · 07-03-2018, 09:02 AM

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I have one on order yes. I like to switch M cars apparently. 2008 M3, 2011 M3, 2015 M3, 2016 M4, 2011 M3, Now a 2019 M2 Comp

Good for you - YOLO....

dmk08 · 07-03-2018, 09:03 AM

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Good for you - YOLO....

This is what happens when you're close to 40 and a DINK (Dual Income No Kids)

dmboone25 · 07-03-2018, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

This is what happens when you're close to 40 and a DINK (Dual Income No Kids)

I am in the exact same situation - but the F80 is my first M.

2007 E92, 2007 E92, 2008 135, 2011 135, 2012 Ducati Monster 796, 2013 Ducati Monster 1100 EVO, 2014 235, 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S, 2015 981 CS, 2017 F80.

ChrisK · 07-03-2018, 09:19 AM

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This is what happens when you're close to 40 and a DINK (Dual Income No Kids)

Yup!

M-Pilot · 07-03-2018, 09:34 AM

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I thought the M2C was almost as heavy as the M4

Yep. Official weight quoted by BMW are as followed:

Model DIN/EU (Kg)
M2 1495/1570
M2C 1550/1625

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Thanks

How does it compare to the M4 in weigh?

I believe the revised figure for M4 is

DIN 1515 Kg
EU 1590 Kg

According to bmw.de, M2C is still lighter than M4 (probably because smaller blue brakes are standart and BBK is optional for M2C in Germany and some other misc options/packages)

EU weight of M2C --> 1625kg (MT), 1650kg (DCT)
EU weight of M4 --> 1645kg (MT), 1670kg (DCT)

Edit: Unladen weight from BMW UK website:

M2C --> 1550kg (MT)
M4 --> 1560kg (MT)

Tag · 07-03-2018, 09:43 AM

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According to bmw.de, M2C is still lighter than M4 (probably because smaller blue brakes are standart and BBK is optional for M2C in Germany and some other misc options/packages)

EU weight of M2C â€”> 1625kg (MT), 1650kg (DCT)
EU weight of M4 â€”> 1645kg (MT), 1670kg (DCT)

Are those MY19 M4 weights? I wonder how much the new filter and larger muffler design adds to the M4’s weight.

dmboone25 · 07-03-2018, 09:45 AM

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Are those MY19 M4 weights? I wonder how much the new filter and larger muffler design adds to the M4’s weight.

Agreed - I can't wait for someone to get a hold of one of these modified exhausts so we can see where the filter actually resides. And why the muffler needed to be so much larger...

M-Pilot · 07-03-2018, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tag

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Originally Posted by cntzl

According to bmw.de, M2C is still lighter than M4 (probably because smaller blue brakes are standart and BBK is optional for M2C in Germany and some other misc options/packages)

EU weight of M2C —> 1625kg (MT), 1650kg (DCT)
EU weight of M4 —> 1645kg (MT), 1670kg (DCT)

Are those MY19 M4 weights? I wonder how much the new filter and larger muffler design adds to the M4’s weight.

I would be surprised if BMW ever updated M4 figures accounting for OPF and the new steel driveshaft. I bet this is the same number they released at the M4 launch.

dmk08 · 07-03-2018, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by gtr

Based on modify weight loss drag race days 10hp is .1 tenth and 100lbs is .1 tenth.

-.05s weight penalty.
+.4s 40hp gain

By estimate is .35s faster in the 1/4 mile under similar condition and car.

Motortrend 12.9s therefore around 12.55s we will see

Some DCT M4s have hit high 11s stock. The power band will matter a lot too since its pretty flat in power. S55 should be in that range longer.

AlpsRider · 07-03-2018, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dmboone25

I am in the exact same situation - but the F80 is my first M.

2007 E92, 2007 E92, 2008 135, 2011 135, 2012 Ducati Monster 796, 2013 Ducati Monster 1100 EVO, 2014 235, 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S, 2015 981 CS, 2017 F80.

Ha! I have a Ducati Monster EVO 🤙

Karmic Man · 07-03-2018, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cntzl

According to bmw.de, M2C is still lighter than M4 (probably because smaller blue brakes are standart and BBK is optional for M2C in Germany and some other misc options/packages)

EU weight of M2C --> 1625kg (MT), 1650kg (DCT)
EU weight of M4 --> 1645kg (MT), 1670kg (DCT)

Edit: Unladen weight from BMW UK website:

M2C --> 1550kg (MT)
M4 --> 1560kg (MT)

Yes, different market has different specifications so their weight difference can be material even among the same model.

The weight I quoted was the Australian specification - 1590 kg (EU). Looks like with the US market the M2C is still lighter than the M4

Karmic Man · 07-03-2018, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gtr

Based on modify weight loss drag race days 10hp is .1 tenth and 100lbs is .1 tenth.

-.05s weight penalty.
+.4s 40hp gain

By estimate is .35s faster in the 1/4 mile under similar condition and car.

Motortrend 12.9s therefore around 12.55s we will see

Also bear in mind that the actual figure will most likely be higher than the quoted marketing figure so the spread will be even higher.

I won't be surprised if it runs the same time as an M4 (non zcp)

M-Pilot · 07-03-2018, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Karmic Man

Yes, different market has different specifications so their weight difference can be material even among the same model.

The weight I quoted was the Australian specification - 1590 kg (EU). Looks like with the US market the M2C is still lighter than the M4

US curb weight of M2C is in fact higher than the US curb weight of M4: 3600lbs (MT) vs 3565lbs (MT). But again, the new BBK is a standard equipment on M2C in US compared to the German market for example.

Karmic Man · 07-03-2018, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cntzl

US curb weight of M2C is in fact higher than the US curb weight of M4: 3600lbs (MT) vs 3565lbs (MT). But again, the new BBK is a standard equipment on M2C in US compared to the German market for example.

Right...sorry it’s late here (2am) not reading properly. Better get some sleep....

stylinexpat · 07-04-2018, 10:31 PM

If it can trap 118-120 MPH in 1/4 mile then that would be nice but if it needs to be pushed hard to trap 112-114 MPH in 1/4 mile then numbers are far off from M3/M4 Numbers

gnx · 07-05-2018, 06:12 AM

Last months M3 CS test from Sport Auto, they weighed the car.

gtr · 07-05-2018, 03:59 PM

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Last months M3 CS test from Sport Auto, they weighed the car.

That's as fast as a R8RWS. I wonder how the M2c compares?

stylinexpat · 11-10-2018, 04:25 PM

Anyone have any update on numbers for new M2 Competition for 1/4 mile trap? I am wondering how far off it is from M3/M4

bowhun2r · 11-12-2018, 11:11 AM

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Anyone have any update on numbers for new M2 Competition for 1/4 mile trap? I am wondering how far off it is from M3/M4

Not an M2, but M240xi 1/4 mile (I had Dinan Stage 1 on this run)

https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1426787

And I know this is the M2 forum. I may becoming a new member here shortly....

BlkSVT · 11-12-2018, 01:34 PM

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Not an M2, but M240xi 1/4 mile (I had Dinan Stage 1 on this run)

https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1426787

And I know this is the M2 forum. I may becoming a new member here shortly....

Nice time! AWD and the ZF8 with that 5.0:1 1st gear makes for a crazy 60' time don't it?

Are you adding the M2(C) or would it replace the 240?

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