[phoenixbmwlife]

Some dealers think that there will be a huge premium on M2 sales when it comes out.

If the M2 at launch is selling at a $5,000 - $10,000 premium I'd rather get an M4.

[Researcher]

Over priced no matter what people say.

[twin fed]

Originally Posted by Bennu

Some dealers think that there will be a huge premium on M2 sales when it comes out.

If the M2 at launch is selling at a $5,000 - $10,000 premium I'd rather get an M4.

That really depends on the dealer, when the 1M first came out my dealer priced one for me and there was no premium.

[phoenixbmwlife]

Originally Posted by twin fed

That really depends on the dealer, when the 1M first came out my dealer priced one for me and there was no premium.

I hope there won't be a premium. I don't see why it should have one. It's not going to be a low production car so no reason really. I really want the M2 not the M4 but at M4 prices no way will I pay that much for a 2 series.

[bluekn8286]

400 is lofty, but it would be awesome! I can't imagine the HP being larger because that would cut into M3/M4 territory.

[DVC]

Originally Posted by Bennu

Some dealers think that there will be a huge premium on M2 sales when it comes out.

If the M2 at launch is selling at a $5,000 - $10,000 premium I'd rather get an M4.

If no one is dumb enough to pay over MSRP, then no dealer will ever get away with attempts to price-gouge.

[sgrinavi]

Originally Posted by DVC

If no one is dumb enough to pay over MSRP, then no dealer will ever get away with attempts to price-gouge.

Smartest thing ever posted

[twin fed]

Originally Posted by sgrinavi

Smartest thing ever posted

Very True

[Wilson]

Originally Posted by DVC

If no one is dumb enough to pay over MSRP, then no dealer will ever get away with attempts to price-gouge.

Good call

[Researcher]

Premium, no premium or even at a discount, the fact remains that this car base price will be in a spot that has too many excellent competitors. Some with way over 500hp and better track numbers such as the Stingray. Waste of time for BMW to produce such a vehicle but then again there are always Blackberry's fans out there that swear their handsets are better than Apple or Androids.

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by tllucas

Premium, no premium or even at a discount, the fact remains that this car base price will be in a spot that has too many excellent competitors. Some with way over 500hp and better track numbers such as the Stingray. Waste of time for BMW to produce such a vehicle but then again there are always Blackberry's fans out there that swear their handsets are better than Apple or Androids.

You have a point sir re the price....but have you seen the feedback on these boards. We want the M2

[amdmaxx]

Isn't lci 3 getting an updated n55 next year? My gut says m2 gets a version of that. Future 335is engine? N55b30t0?
M car should have slightly detuned s55 engine or single turbo version not n55.

[IZAGLO]

Originally Posted by tllucas

Premium, no premium or even at a discount, the fact remains that this car base price will be in a spot that has too many excellent competitors. Some with way over 500hp and better track numbers such as the Stingray. Waste of time for BMW to produce such a vehicle but then again there are always Blackberry's fans out there that swear their handsets are better than Apple or Androids.

What planet are you on? WASTE OF TIME FOR BMW TO BUILD THE M2?....Put the M235i next to the M3 or M4 or the M2 when released....you may feel like you made a mistake buying the M235i....like putting my 135i next to a 1M... no comparison....The M2 WILL BE AMAZING!! and wanted...and certainly not a waste of time

[Steven1077]

I can live with the N55 with 360bhp, as long as the price is right

[phoenixbmwlife]

Originally Posted by tllucas

Premium, no premium or even at a discount, the fact remains that this car base price will be in a spot that has too many excellent competitors. Some with way over 500hp and better track numbers such as the Stingray. Waste of time for BMW to produce such a vehicle but then again there are always Blackberry's fans out there that swear their handsets are better than Apple or Androids.

Waste of time for BMW to make the M2 cause of lots of competitors??? Really? That has not stopped BMW in the past so why should it stop them now?

The starting price of a Stingray is already $10k less than the MSRP of the M4 and they still released the M4 which has less HP than the stingray. It's not just about HP or track times.

No offense but thank God BMW does not hire people with your logic of thought.

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by bitcore

Which it won't.
It's a modified N55: N55B30T0. The T0 designation is what separates it from a regular N55. It is not yet publicly known what the changes the M division have done. Hopefully the changes include a turbo that can flow more than the regular N55, and stronger internal bits in the bottom end of the engine - crank, rods, pistons. I'm sure the stock boost targets will be higher to suit the current output figure claims - which can be done with the existing regular N55 turbo. However, without a larger turbo, there's significantly less aftermarket headroom for easy power increase.

The new M3 and M4 have the S55B30.

Keep in mind that the comments above quote directly the production schedule release information leaked on the forum a while back. The engine code is N55 based, not S55.

Note the language in the C&D article:

Powertrain: We’re fairly certain that the M2 will be powered by BMW’s prolific twin-turbo S55 3.0-liter inline-six.

Prolific twin-turbo S55? Huh?

Prolific
adjective
present in large numbers or quantities; plentiful.

Basically, the author of this article suffers from a bit of ignorance. He has conflated the S55 and N55, which is obviously not the case.

You can ignore this bit in the article. It is poorly informed.

[IZAGLO]

One of the BIG and main reasons BMW needs to build the M2 is because the M3, M4,M5,M6, are just to BIG..although beautiful cars i can not believe how they have grown..as again i was looking at them yesterday.As the 135i was supposed to be the 2002Ti successor the M2 hopefully will bring back the magic the 1M brought us. BMW needs the M2 the NEED a smaller coupe... and if they were smart would offer it in a less is more philosophy when it comes to luxury...IMO the best size M was the E46...perfect size...the trend these days is bigger and more....bring back the less is more when it comes to size and weight....for that matter give me the Alacantra interior and cloth Alacantra seats and 6/mt and send me on my way....This is the turning point for BMW and size....it's ok to make a smaller M coupe...its really OK...we will buy small!

[swifty]

Defn, the F8x is too big for me. If I'm going to go with a turbo car again, I want it to be nimble but do like some of the creature comforts that are offered in the new m3/m4 like the headsup display.

Does anyone know think that will be offered with the m2?

[phoenixbmwlife]

Originally Posted by IZAGLO

One of the BIG and main reasons BMW needs to build the M2 is because the M3, M4,M5,M6, are just to BIG..although beautiful cars i can not believe how they have grown..as again i was looking at them yesterday.As the 135i was supposed to be the 2002Ti successor the M2 hopefully will bring back the magic the 1M brought us. BMW needs the M2 the NEED a smaller coupe... and if they were smart would offer it in a less is more philosophy when it comes to luxury...IMO the best size M was the E46...perfect size...the trend these days is bigger and more....bring back the less is more when it comes to size and weight....for that matter give me the Alacantra interior and cloth Alacantra seats and 6/mt and send me on my way....This is the turning point for BMW and size....it's ok to make a smaller M coupe...its really OK...we will buy small!

For me the best size was the E36 M3. The weight was perfect also. But yeh I agree the size has just gotten bigger and bigger. Even the 2 series is bigger than the 1 series.

[Jimblebar]

Hope it weighs less than 3200lbs!

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by Jimblebar

Hope it weighs less than 3200lbs!

That's a lot of hope....

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by Bennu

Some dealers think that there will be a huge premium on M2 sales when it comes out.

Some dealers are dreaming of another limited production run 1M. There are a few factors that will prevent price gouging (if a buyer has any sense):

1) The M2 won't be announced as a limited production release. When the 1M came out, we all knew it wouldn't be around for long, and so did the dealers.

2) The M2 is being released in to a completely different automotive environment. The 1M spurred responses from Mercedes (CLA 45 AMG) and Audi (S3, RS3) in the compact sports car segment. Buyers have alternatives that aren't charging huge markups.

Sure, there will be cases where some idiot with more money than sense will overpay for an M2, but I predict anyone who is looking for a car at a reasonable price will find one. Look for an environment similar to the M235i where availability was limited at the beginning, but is beginning to open up.